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Applevision 1710 monitor
My Applevision 1710 monitor has intermittant problems. At power up,
sometimes the monitor displays normally after a few seconds, sometimes it displays after 3 to 10 minutes and sometimes the screen remains completely black. I have read the recent news from Zeljko but i need more help. From my reading of the news, i suspect 3 sources of problem: 1/the opto-isolator (Motorola MOC2A60-5) 2/the PTC thermistor RP49 (i have read on the news that it is a PTC type, is it a PTC?) 3/loss of the parameter settings in the processor of the CRT video board 1/ opto-isolator Motorola MOC2A60-5 Is it possible to short (pins 7-9) it definitively and switch off the monitor by switching off the main power on the monitor? In this case, the energy save feature uill not work. Do i will be able to use the monitor? The LED cathode and anode are respectively 2 and 3 (close). The load is between 7 and 9 (rather distant). 2/ PTC thermistor RP49 I measured on mine a value of 1100 khoms. On Anatek i found it should have a value of 4.8 to 5.4 khoms at romm temperature. Is it correct to replace the thermistor by a standard 4.7 khoms resistor? Where are the square blue J29P190 PTC thermistor and TL431 mentionned by Zeljko ? I have made a picture of the Applevision main board, showing the opto-isolator MOC2A60-5, the thermistor RP49 and IC TDA4605. (http://pbrosson.free.fr/applevision/mainBoard.jpeg) 3/ reconfiguring the CRT video board parameters I'd like to reconfigure the CRT video board parameters with Apple's Display Service Utility (DSU) software Apple's DSU requires that a jumper (Apple part number 076-0529) be placed in a 4-pin connector labelled BV1. Apple docs indicate that only 2 pins need to be shortcut, but does not say which. I have numbered these 4 pins, please have a look at the picture of the CRT video board with its 4-pin BV1 connector at : http://pbrosson.free.fr/applevision/jumper.jpeg Looking in detail at the CRT video board, i found that pin 1 is not connected to any thing pin 2 is connected to pin14 of IV2 IC, to pin4 of IV4 IC and to pin39 of IV6 IC pin 3 is connected to pin12 of IV2 IC and to pin10 of IV6 IC pin 4 is connected to pin12 of IV6 IC I could try to short 2-3, 2-4 or 3-4, but i am afraid of damaging my monitor, so any information is *really* welcome. 4/ Where i can find the model reference, pin designation and datasheets of these ICs of the CRT video board? IV2: 28 legs, with this label Motorola LSC 442 025CDWR2 341 S0296 6D56GLLGG9649 IV4: 8 legs, with this label 4LC21 M /SN IV6: 44 legs with this label Motorola 3415 0287 V3.01 LSC438802B 341S0288 Links Apple Display Service Utility(4.2.1): ftp://grijan.cjb.net:21000/macintosh...rvutil.sea.bin AppleVision service manual: http://preterhuman.net/texts/computi...av_display.pdf Datasheet on MOC2A60-5 opto-isolator: http://www.dialelec.com. Anatek: http://www.anatekcorp.com Thank you very much for your help. Philippe |
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Applevision 1710 monitor
Hello,
Those threads are somehow mixed...didn't see Yours earlier. "philippe brosson" wrote in message ... My Applevision 1710 monitor has intermittant problems. At power up, sometimes the monitor displays normally after a few seconds, sometimes it displays after 3 to 10 minutes and sometimes the screen remains completely black. I didn't have intermittant problem - it was dead. From my reading of the news, i suspect 3 sources of problem: 1/the opto-isolator (Motorola MOC2A60-5) 2/the PTC thermistor RP49 (i have read on the news that it is a PTC type, is it a PTC?) 3/loss of the parameter settings in the processor of the CRT video board 1/ opto-isolator Motorola MOC2A60-5 Is it possible to short (pins 7-9) it definitively and switch off the monitor by switching off the main power on the monitor? In this case, the energy save feature uill not work. Do i will be able to use the monitor? The LED cathode and anode are respectively 2 and 3 (close). The load is between 7 and 9 (rather distant). If I remember OK, I saw no difference between shorted MOC and not shorted. Monitor was working OK. I could switch monitor ON only with signal (from PC, not MAC). And of course main power switch was ON. Where are the square blue J29P190 PTC thermistor and TL431 mentionned by Zeljko ? This is Your RP49. At this place I had blue PTC and it's not thermistor. It's Positive Temperature Coefficient resistor. TL431 is on Your pic north from RP49 - looks like transistor. Resistor 2K7 is between RP49 and TL431. This resistor was blown on my monitor, and I put 1K5 2W. Top side of this resistor is tied to the cathode of TL431. There You can measure 11V with respect to the primary ground (it's not chassis ground). If You suspect, buy new PTC and put it in. Check resistor 2K7 (if I see OK on Your pic). Replace small elko next to the TDA4605. You can use freeze spray (be careful) to find intermittant problems! Zeljko |
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