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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
Got this set dead, fuse was blown. Replaced the BUW12 on the power board,
checked out the rest of that board and fired it up. Power light came on then set went dead, stupid me, I missed the separate HOT on the sweep board, it's shorted too. I plan on replacing these parts and trying it again, but first is there anything major that often fails on these sets? I'm hoping the flyback and HV block are good, it's a fairly old TV but looks to be in nice shape and has been sitting for several years. |
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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
James,
Usually the H.O.T. short will take out that BUW12A. Mostly caused by poor solder connections everywhere. The H.O.T. can be replaced with a 2SD1710. Unless you have the original BU508v laying around. You will most likely have a coolant contamination situation when you get it running. Also, always replace the 100uf 200volt cap in the power supply. Good Luck, Bill Jr "James Sweet" wrote in message news:YWlSb.54738$U%5.322632@attbi_s03... Got this set dead, fuse was blown. Replaced the BUW12 on the power board, checked out the rest of that board and fired it up. Power light came on then set went dead, stupid me, I missed the separate HOT on the sweep board, it's shorted too. I plan on replacing these parts and trying it again, but first is there anything major that often fails on these sets? I'm hoping the flyback and HV block are good, it's a fairly old TV but looks to be in nice shape and has been sitting for several years. |
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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
I replaced the HOT with something I had in my scrap box that has similar
specs, NTE lists the same replacement for both it and the BU508V so hopefully it'll work. Replaced the BUW12A with another similar transistor, should have ordered more than one of the correct part, but at least if that fries again it should only take out the fuse. The TV is out at my mom's place and the boards are here so I'll have to drive out there and see if it works. The ESR checked out ok on that cap, does it usually fail? I did find quite a few cracked solder joints, figured that's probably what caused the original failure. As for the coolant, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, so far I've been lucky and never had to deal with contaminated coolant, first time for everything though I suppose. "Bill Jr" wrote in message . .. James, Usually the H.O.T. short will take out that BUW12A. Mostly caused by poor solder connections everywhere. The H.O.T. can be replaced with a 2SD1710. Unless you have the original BU508v laying around. You will most likely have a coolant contamination situation when you get it running. Also, always replace the 100uf 200volt cap in the power supply. Good Luck, Bill Jr "James Sweet" wrote in message news:YWlSb.54738$U%5.322632@attbi_s03... Got this set dead, fuse was blown. Replaced the BUW12 on the power board, checked out the rest of that board and fired it up. Power light came on then set went dead, stupid me, I missed the separate HOT on the sweep board, it's shorted too. I plan on replacing these parts and trying it again, but first is there anything major that often fails on these sets? I'm hoping the flyback and HV block are good, it's a fairly old TV but looks to be in nice shape and has been sitting for several years. |
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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
James,
I always replace that 100uf 200 volt cap just for general principle. They fail regularly. The transistors aren't that critical on specs so you should be ok. Not like a Sony. If you do need some assistance for coolant issues just holler. Good Luck, Bill Jr "James Sweet" wrote in message news:zhySb.191099$na.317301@attbi_s04... I replaced the HOT with something I had in my scrap box that has similar specs, NTE lists the same replacement for both it and the BU508V so hopefully it'll work. Replaced the BUW12A with another similar transistor, should have ordered more than one of the correct part, but at least if that fries again it should only take out the fuse. The TV is out at my mom's place and the boards are here so I'll have to drive out there and see if it works. The ESR checked out ok on that cap, does it usually fail? I did find quite a few cracked solder joints, figured that's probably what caused the original failure. As for the coolant, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it, so far I've been lucky and never had to deal with contaminated coolant, first time for everything though I suppose. "Bill Jr" wrote in message . .. James, Usually the H.O.T. short will take out that BUW12A. Mostly caused by poor solder connections everywhere. The H.O.T. can be replaced with a 2SD1710. Unless you have the original BU508v laying around. You will most likely have a coolant contamination situation when you get it running. Also, always replace the 100uf 200volt cap in the power supply. Good Luck, Bill Jr "James Sweet" wrote in message news:YWlSb.54738$U%5.322632@attbi_s03... Got this set dead, fuse was blown. Replaced the BUW12 on the power board, checked out the rest of that board and fired it up. Power light came on then set went dead, stupid me, I missed the separate HOT on the sweep board, it's shorted too. I plan on replacing these parts and trying it again, but first is there anything major that often fails on these sets? I'm hoping the flyback and HV block are good, it's a fairly old TV but looks to be in nice shape and has been sitting for several years. |
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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
"Bill Jr" wrote in message . com... James, I always replace that 100uf 200 volt cap just for general principle. They fail regularly. The transistors aren't that critical on specs so you should be ok. Not like a Sony. If you do need some assistance for coolant issues just holler. Good Luck, Bill Jr Well apparently my sub in the PSU won't cut it, nothing fries but the supply doesn't come up either, relay clicks, there's a faint buzzing sound but none of the outputs come up. 12v standby is present and the power indicator does come on. I checked and the blue and green coolant is indeed contaminated, fortunatly the tubes themselves look to be in good condition, the phosphor is nice and white-ish with no burn that I noticed. MCM stocks the BUW12A's and coolant, how much do I need to redo all 3 tubes? I know this has been asked before but I never paid much attention since I've never had this problem. Before I place an order, are there any other parts I'm likely to need to complete this? |
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Philips 41JP20 RPTV
James, You might want to pull that Oscillator board that mounts to the deflection board and resolder the edge connector. There are 2 resistors in series that perform startup on the power supply board. Located near the center of the board. 330k and 300k if memory serves. These open up and cause a no start condition. While they are going open they cause power supply to go crazy. There is special zener diode (Z4 if memory serves) that can short. Also could be a bad flyback. Below is a snippet from a post made 4/24/2002 by me: For everyone's info....the flybacks listed below are for the most common NAP Projo sets as listed at MCM at that time. Pricing may vary accordingly. These are used in the APW009 thru APW028 and maybe a few more. NAP p/n MCM p/n HR Diemen p/n MCM pricing 362135-1 33-3714 HR6480 $25.96 362135-2 33-3716 HR6481 $25.96 362140-1 33-4286 HR6493 $26.78 362140-2 33-4288 HR6494 $26.65 The following are used to replace the big white square block type flyback used in some alternate version APW009/010 and possibly APW007/008 boards. NAP p/n MCM p/n HR Diemen p/n MCM pricing 362003-6 33-4296 HR6541 $34.81 362003-7 33-4298 HR6542 $34.81 As far as the coolant goes, I have only replaced coolant in the Red CRT chamber once in all my years of doing them. If it is clear then leave it alone. This will also serve as a reference when setting up the other CRT's after removing them and changing coolant. It should take about 9-12 ounces per tube to do coolant change. I would recommend 2 bottles of 16 ounce coolant to be sure to get the job done. As long as you are placing an order for parts go ahead and get the correct transistors. If you get real stuck just let me know. I can email you my cell phone number, Good Luck, Bill Jr "James Sweet" wrote in message news:nACSb.190023$xy6.985528@attbi_s02... "Bill Jr" wrote in message . com... James, I always replace that 100uf 200 volt cap just for general principle. They fail regularly. The transistors aren't that critical on specs so you should be ok. Not like a Sony. If you do need some assistance for coolant issues just holler. Good Luck, Bill Jr Well apparently my sub in the PSU won't cut it, nothing fries but the supply doesn't come up either, relay clicks, there's a faint buzzing sound but none of the outputs come up. 12v standby is present and the power indicator does come on. I checked and the blue and green coolant is indeed contaminated, fortunatly the tubes themselves look to be in good condition, the phosphor is nice and white-ish with no burn that I noticed. MCM stocks the BUW12A's and coolant, how much do I need to redo all 3 tubes? I know this has been asked before but I never paid much attention since I've never had this problem. Before I place an order, are there any other parts I'm likely to need to complete this? |
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