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How to create an EMERGENCY folder on a mobile device (and what to put inside)
Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you
put inside)? I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone. http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder? a. 911 b. Police/fire scanner c. What else? A. 911 * I created a local and normal 911 contact * I long pressed on those emergency 911 contacts * I hit "Add shortcut to home" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/da4Qbt.png ) * This created a desktop shortcut to move each into the emergency folder B. Scanner * I opened Firefox to broadcastify/listen/ctid/226 * I pressed the start to bookmark the URL * I opened the bookmarks editor & long pressed on the bookmark * I selected the "save to desktop" option * This created a desktop shortcut to move into the emergency folder C. What else goes inside your mobile device emergency folder? |
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Horace Algier wrote
Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device Nope, iOS has a much better system for that that allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone. (and what do you put inside)? I don’t bother myself. I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone. http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder? I don’t put anything in mine. The local cops do have their own number and that is much more useful than our equivalent of your 911 number. I just have it as a normal phone number but with AAA in front of it so it shows up right at the top of the contacts list. a. 911 b. Police/fire scanner Illegal here. c. What else? We do have a live traffic app provided by the govt that does allow you to see traffic congestion, but google maps does a much better job of traffic. The app is good for roads closed by flooding and fire etc. A. 911 * I created a local and normal 911 contact * I long pressed on those emergency 911 contacts * I hit "Add shortcut to home" ( http://i.cubeupload.com/da4Qbt.png ) * This created a desktop shortcut to move each into the emergency folder B. Scanner * I opened Firefox to broadcastify/listen/ctid/226 * I pressed the start to bookmark the URL * I opened the bookmarks editor & long pressed on the bookmark * I selected the "save to desktop" option * This created a desktop shortcut to move into the emergency folder C. What else goes inside your mobile device emergency folder? Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals. |
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals. Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast -- Kees Nuyt |
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"Kees Nuyt" wrote in message n.nl... On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:16 +1000, "Rod Speed" wrote: Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals. Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast). Its actually SMS-CB as the below says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast |
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Go away. Your blatherings are not appropriate to this group, and your subjects are both useless and trivial. That some rise to the bait enabling your illness is sad, but entirely human.
Peter Wieck Melrose Park, PA |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
a. 911 b. Police/fire scanner c. What else? Rod Speed brought up a point about having Google Traffic on a quick push-button link, so that you don't waste time in a hectic situation. Looking it up, these two articles show how easy it is to add a traffic link to the desktop: https://support.google.com/maps/answ...form%3DAndroid http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create...ds-home-screen Basically you simply long press on your desktop, and set it up from there. Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now: 1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop) 2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts') 3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected 'Maps') 4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination) 5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link) 6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (That link opens up Google Maps) Of course, it won't work for me (since I don't have any google accounts), but it should work for most of you (who do have google accounts). |
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 09:39:16 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device Nope, iOS has a much better system for that that allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone. That's interesting that iOS has a "system" which includes fire/police scanning. How does that iOS method you allude to figure out which fire/police scanner to broadcast in the USA and countries that allow it? (and what do you put inside)? I don¢t bother myself. Emergencies happen, so, it's not a bad idea to be prepared for them, ahead of time. For example, if you see a fire threatening your only access out, you might not want to waste time *looking* for a frequency to tell you which evacuation route they're using. Sure, if you're lucky, the police will come by ahead of time broadcasting it, and signs will be up, and everyone you ask will be informed ... but that's not always how well organized it's gonna be. I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone. http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder? I don¢t put anything in mine. The local cops do have their own number and that is much more useful than our equivalent of your 911 number. I just have it as a normal phone number but with AAA in front of it so it shows up right at the top of the contacts list. That's useful to put AAA on top, as it will save precious seconds when needed. Of course, 911 also works, when needed (but in my case, that dispatcher is 75 miles away). It will be interesting to see how other people prepare their mobile devices for emergencies. a. 911 b. Police/fire scanner Illegal here. Wow. You can't even *listen* to radio broadcasts? And I thought *we* were oppressed! c. What else? We do have a live traffic app provided by the govt that does allow you to see traffic congestion, but google maps does a much better job of traffic. The app is good for roads closed by flooding and fire etc. Actually, that's a great point in that we should add a link to Google Maps for traffic congestion around our home. It should be as simple as the Google Map link (which is huge) saved as a desktop shortcut. I'll add it to mine. Thanks for that idea. How to add a Google Maps shortcut to your desktop https://support.google.com/maps/answ...form%3DAndroid How to create instant map shortcuts on your home screen http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create...ds-home-screen Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals. As you noted, the authorities used a reverse-911 to notify every cellphone within the towers receiving area, to let people know about the evacuation. But you can't always rely on the authorities, and, if you have cats, dogs, chickens, etc., you may need to instantly call for help - which should all be on a quick-dial mechanism in the emergency folder, IMHO, in order of 1 2 3, left to right, top to bottom. |
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How to create an EMERGENCY folder on a mobile device (and what to put inside)
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 16:00:01 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now: 1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop) 2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts') 3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected 'Maps') 4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination) 5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link) 6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (That link opens up Google Maps) Correction... Here are the simple steps, as I tried them on my phone just now: 1. http://i.cubeupload.com/PhtFyG.png (I long pressed on the desktop) 2. http://i.cubeupload.com/gkr0SO.png (I selected 'shortcuts') 3. http://i.cubeupload.com/JklWuv.png (I selected *'Directions'*) 4. http://i.cubeupload.com/yk0zXa.png (I entered my destination) 5. http://i.cubeupload.com/qUEtUb.png (Pressing 'save' created a link) 6. http://i.cubeupload.com/STiVuF.png (It will do whatever you've set up) If someone knows how to do the same thing on iOS, please advise so that the iOS users also benefit by having a traffic link in their emergency folder, if desired. |
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:56:01 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast). Its actually SMS-CB as the below says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast Please read more attentively, and without snipping the *important* parts: : Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ... : ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB). So: not "is actually" but "is also known as". YvW. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. |
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On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:11:28 +0100, tlvp wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2016 20:56:01 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast). Its actually SMS-CB as the below says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast Please read more attentively, and without snipping the *important* parts: : Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ... : ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB). So: not "is actually" but "is also known as". YvW. Cheers, -- tlvp PDTFT FU set -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug |
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Horace Algier wrote
Rod Speed wrote Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device Nope, iOS has a much better system for that that allows that stuff to be displayed by anyone. That's interesting that iOS has a "system" which includes fire/police scanning. I didn’t mean that. I was talking about a quite different emergency, when someone finds you unconscious or incapable and needs to contact someone you have specified to tell them that you have been found unconscious or incapable to tell them you have been taken to a particular hospital etc. I meant to go back and restate that when I had finished the rest of the post but managed to forget to do that until after I had sent the post. How does that iOS method you allude to figure out which fire/police scanner to broadcast in the USA and countries that allow it? It doesn’t. (and what do you put inside)? I don¢t bother myself. Emergencies happen, Yes, but I don’t need any particular way to deal with those except to put the local number for the cops that works a lot better than our equivalent of the 911 number at the top of the contacts where I need to use it to call the cops if I need to do that. so, it's not a bad idea to be prepared for them, ahead of time. And I do, but not in the way you do that. For example, if you see a fire threatening your only access out, you might not want to waste time *looking* for a frequency to tell you which evacuation route they're using. We don’t do it that way, like I said, our system uses SMS-CB to tell you that and that requires no specific action on your part at all except to have your phone turned on so you can receive that. And in our case the Live Traffic app does a much better job of showing you which evacuation routes are viable with floods, bushfires etc than any frequency does. Sure, if you're lucky, the police will come by ahead of time broadcasting it, and signs will be up, and everyone you ask will be informed ... but that's not always how well organized it's gonna be. That's why we use SMS-CB. Not perfect, because there are still a few people who don’t have cellphones and there will always be some in an emergency whose phones have got flat batterys, but a lot better than telling people by knocking on their doors. At least those who do have working phones can tell others who don’t what the SMS-CB has told them. I just created an "Emergency" folder on my phone. http://i.cubeupload.com/QBxJ7i.png What would you suggest goes inside your emergency folder? I don't put anything in mine. The local cops do have their own number and that is much more useful than our equivalent of your 911 number. I just have it as a normal phone number but with AAA in front of it so it shows up right at the top of the contacts list. That's useful to put AAA on top, as it will save precious seconds when needed. Yes, that's why I do it like that. Of course, 911 also works, when needed (but in my case, that dispatcher is 75 miles away). The problem with mine is that they don’t connect you directly to the local police station, they connect you to the cops 100 miles away for some reason. It will be interesting to see how other people prepare their mobile devices for emergencies. Surprisingly few have commented yet. a. 911 b. Police/fire scanner Illegal here. Wow. You can't even *listen* to radio broadcasts? You can't listen to the communication between those crews. Those arent broadcasts. And I thought *we* were oppressed! Nothing to do with oppression. You arent allowed to listen in to other people's cellphone conversations either, although that isnt even possible now the entire system is GSM/LTE. It was possible with the original AMPS system. c. What else? We do have a live traffic app provided by the govt that does allow you to see traffic congestion, but google maps does a much better job of traffic. The app is good for roads closed by flooding and fire etc. Actually, that's a great point in that we should add a link to Google Maps for traffic congestion around our home. It should be as simple as the Google Map link (which is huge) saved as a desktop shortcut. I'll add it to mine. Thanks for that idea. How to add a Google Maps shortcut to your desktop https://support.google.com/maps/answ...form%3DAndroid How to create instant map shortcuts on your home screen http://lifehacker.com/5426824/create...ds-home-screen Nothing. Our system does allow the authorities to send SMSs to those in areas affected by large scale emergencies, but that is entirely driven by them, it gets sent to cellphones that are logged on to particular bases etc and requires no action by individuals. As you noted, the authorities used a reverse-911 to notify every cellphone within the towers receiving area, to let people know about the evacuation. Its not a reverse 911, its SMS-CB, a variant of SMS. But you can't always rely on the authorities, and, if you have cats, dogs, chickens, etc., you may need to instantly call for help - You wont get it here with those except when you call your neighbours etc. which should all be on a quick-dial mechanism in the emergency folder, IMHO, in order of 1 2 3, left to right, top to bottom. The iOS contacts system does allow an emergency category in the contacts. It also allows you to list those you want to be called if say you are found unconscious or incapable and that is visible on the lock screen of your idevice so anyone can get those details from there as long as your phone is still working. |
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tlvp wrote
Rod Speed wrote Strictly speaking that's not SMS, that's CB (Cell Broadcast). Its actually SMS-CB as the below says. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast Please read more attentively, Go and **** yourself. and without snipping the *important* parts: I snipped nothing. : Cell Broadcast/Cell Information (CB) messaging ... : ... is also known as Short Message Service-Cell Broadcast (SMS-CB). So: not "is actually" but "is also known as". You are wrong, as always. |
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Well, for "my emergency use" I put a contact name that's basically something like "0_If Found Call". I'm hoping if a nice person found my phone, they might look at the contacts. You could always call one like Home or mom or something. I just made it easier.
I have an app, that if I TXT a message with a certain subject to my phone, the ring volume raises to max. This is so i can do the locate thing by calling it. My phone has a few hiding places it likes. Side of the car seat, bed, side of a chair. I try to only put the phone in specific spaces like sid eof the bed (charging), Living room couch (charging), and on top of a TV. So, the most important thing is for me to be able to find my phone. I do need to add the police non-emergency number like a tree down in a road in my contacts list and I do need to back-up my SIM card. I have a specific device that can do that. I have a very early Android device that's practically useless. |
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Rod Speed wrote:
Horace Algier wrote Rod Speed wrote It will be interesting to see how other people prepare their mobile devices for emergencies. Surprisingly few have commented yet. No, not surprising at all. |
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Chris wrote
Rod Speed wrote Horace Algier wrote Rod Speed wrote It will be interesting to see how other people prepare their mobile devices for emergencies. Surprisingly few have commented yet. No, not surprising at all. Have fun explaining why they have done with his other stuff. |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 22:48:49 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Surprisingly few have commented yet. No, not surprising at all. Have fun explaining why they have done with his other stuff. The number of posts in a thread is absolutely meaningless. In most threads, most of the comments are unhelpful noise anyway, so, one or two good technical accurate responses is about all *any* thread could hope for in the best of curcumstances. To that end, I *try* (but sometimes fail) to make "my" posts packed with as much value as I can pack into them, so that all benefit from the conversation. I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances. Based on taking up all suggestions in this thread, what we have together developed, so far, is this emergency folder capability: http://i.cubeupload.com/MPNlDb.gif a. Local 911 (if applicable in your area) b. CHP 911 c. Evacuation Route Traffic d. Police/Fire Scanner (if legal in your area) e. ? In addition, I'm working on a button to send out an alert SMS to the family that also sends the GPS coordinates. 1. For example, this emergencySMS app "says" it will send out a pre-recorded text to three people at the touch of a button: - Emergency SMS By DASTIS Communication = https://play.google.com/store/apps/d....emergency.sms 2. This Emergency reverse-SMS app "says" it will alert you by sound (even if the phone is on silent or vibrate) if you receive a text from someone using a pre-defined code word: - TeXTe - Emergency SMS by Curly Y. = https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ravid.dev.esms 3. This emergency 911-related SMS app "says" it will alert your family any time you call 911: - 911HelpSMS ( 911 Help SMS ) By Safety Now Solutions = https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...bmatch.help911 4. This Emergency SMS app "says" it will alert people with a pre-recorded message and your GPS location when you press the sleep button a few times - Emergency Alert By xAnkle = https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...kle.mobile.sos 5. This alert app "says" it will alert by phone or email with your GPS location on a map snapshot along with a pre-recorded message: - Emergency Button By Andluck = https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...ergency.button etc. As always, there is so much good freeware out there that the "price" is the testing to find the best ones - which is why I *asked* what *you* put in *your* emergency folder (assuming you've tested emergency apps). |
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wrote: I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances. no you don't. |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 13:56:06 -0400, nospam wrote:
I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances. no you don't. The difference between you and me is that I try to be helpful (which takes effort on my part). I wouldn't normally even respond to your supremely unhelpful post above, but I do have one thing to say regarding the emergency contact setup that I just tried, after testing out *all* the suggestions people made: http://i.cubeupload.com/MPNlDb.gif The fact that we can change the *name* of *any* app whatsoever could be helpful, in an emergency context, since we can remove the "brand" name of the app, and just list what function it has for emergency purposes. Just by way of example, you'll notice in the latter screenshot above that I changed the pre-installed "Messages" app to read "sns/mms" (sic), [which I have just now updated to "sms/mms", after noticing the typo in that screenshot). The point is that we can change *any* app name we want, which is useful in an emergency folder, becuase the brand name isn't going to be instantly recognized, since we use it so little - but the FUNCTIONALITY (as always) is paramount ... *So we can name the Emergency app by its FUNCTIONALITY!* By way of example, I just changed the pre-installed YouTube app name to "old youtube" because it's an older version that doesn't do advertisements, and I changed VLC to "vlc player" just to test if I was able to change the name of both pre-installed and post-installed apps. Turns out it's really easy to remove those silly brand names to change the name of the app to something that makes sense to you. Just long press on the app icon, and you can change the name to anything you want. This ability to name any existing app what *you* want to name it is very useful for an emergency folder, where brand names are meaningless, and where the *functionality* of the app is paramount. You can even named the emergency apps "1" "2" "3", etc., so that you can just press them quickly in an emergency. Whatever you name them is totally up to you, but this capability to edit the app name no matter what the app is, will give the emergency folder a *consistency* which can save time in an emergency since you can name them "do this first" or "call police and fire" or whatever you want to name the apps, even if they're apps from the app store. See this screenshot for the summary of how to change the name of any app on an unrooted Android device (I'm on Android 4.3, Nova free launcher). http://i.cubeupload.com/rkBFU9.jpg |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:00:48 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
The iOS contacts system does allow an emergency category in the contacts. It also allows you to list those you want to be called if say you are found unconscious or incapable and that is visible on the lock screen of your idevice so anyone can get those details from there as long as your phone is still working. I generally tackle all problems on both iOS and Android, particularly for emergencies, because you'll never know what you will have in your hands at the time of an emergency. On iOS 9.x, when I open contacts and search for "ice" or for "emergency", I get nothing (not surprisingly, because I never set up anything). Looking about in iOS contacts, I don't see any overt mention of an "emergency" system. Googling, I find this article: 3 Features You Should Enable in iOS 8 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468891,00.asp In that article, they talk about a "Health" app that Apple supplied in iOS 8, which doesn't seem to be on my device in iOS9 (I skipped iOS 8 altogether since I update the device as little as possible since all hell broke loose outside the walled garden the penultimate time I updated). Hmmmm... no "Health" app on this iPad. I only have one desktop screen, and there's no health app on it, nor in Settings General on the left column. So, scratch that method (maybe it works only on phones?). Moving on to another reference, I find this: https://snapguide.com/guides/add-ice...ts-for-iphone/ How to Add ICE (In Case of Emergency) Contacts for iPhone 1. Contacts + First = ICE 1 - Wife 2. Copy that to "Last" name also (if contacts are reverse sorted). 3. Company = Patty Winter, wife 4. Scroll down to "add field" 5. The article says scroll to the bottom of the popup to add "notes" but I don't see any notes. I just see: - Prefix - Phonetic first name - Pronunciation first name - Middle name - Phonetic middle name - Phonetic last name - Pronunciation last name - Maiden name - Suffix - Nickname - Job title - Department 6. So I put the phone number in the Company field instead (since there were no notes fields). 7. Press "Done". Hmmm... I guess adding ICE is better than doing absolutely nothing, but it's not much better than doing absolutely nothing. Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? Thanks! NOTE: iPad, with SIM data, iOS 9.3.2 (and staying on that until/unless there is a compelling reason to risk another release) |
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wrote: I generally tackle all problems on both iOS and Android, particularly for emergencies, because you'll never know what you will have in your hands at the time of an emergency. blood. |
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wrote: I also almost always *try* the suggestions proposed, if they are reasonable, and if they fit the circumstances. no you don't. The difference between you and me is that I try to be helpful (which takes effort on my part). if that's the case, then you failed at that too. and i wasn't trying to be helpful. i was simply stating the facts, something which you hate. |
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"Horace Algier" wrote in message ... On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 06:00:48 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: The iOS contacts system does allow an emergency category in the contacts. It also allows you to list those you want to be called if say you are found unconscious or incapable and that is visible on the lock screen of your idevice so anyone can get those details from there as long as your phone is still working. I generally tackle all problems on both iOS and Android, particularly for emergencies, because you'll never know what you will have in your hands at the time of an emergency. On iOS 9.x, when I open contacts and search for "ice" or for "emergency", I get nothing (not surprisingly, because I never set up anything). Looking about in iOS contacts, I don't see any overt mention of an "emergency" system. Googling, I find this article: 3 Features You Should Enable in iOS 8 http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2468891,00.asp In that article, they talk about a "Health" app that Apple supplied in iOS 8, which doesn't seem to be on my device in iOS9 (I skipped iOS 8 altogether since I update the device as little as possible since all hell broke loose outside the walled garden the penultimate time I updated). Hmmmm... no "Health" app on this iPad. I only have one desktop screen, and there's no health app on it, nor in Settings General on the left column. So, scratch that method (maybe it works only on phones?). Moving on to another reference, I find this: https://snapguide.com/guides/add-ice...ts-for-iphone/ How to Add ICE (In Case of Emergency) Contacts for iPhone 1. Contacts + First = ICE 1 - Wife 2. Copy that to "Last" name also (if contacts are reverse sorted). 3. Company = Patty Winter, wife 4. Scroll down to "add field" 5. The article says scroll to the bottom of the popup to add "notes" but I don't see any notes. I just see: - Prefix - Phonetic first name - Pronunciation first name - Middle name - Phonetic middle name - Phonetic last name - Pronunciation last name - Maiden name - Suffix - Nickname - Job title - Department 6. So I put the phone number in the Company field instead (since there were no notes fields). 7. Press "Done". Hmmm... I guess adding ICE is better than doing absolutely nothing, but it's not much better than doing absolutely nothing. Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. Thanks! NOTE: iPad, with SIM data, iOS 9.3.2 (and staying on that until/unless there is a compelling reason to risk another release) |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. OK. Now I get it. It's sort of like this app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ice-...412786820?mt=8 If you're dead (or dying), and your iDevice (maybe just the phone and not the iPad?) is still locked, the "bit of the health app" that you're talking about, "tells" your good samartan whatever you wanted to tell them in the ICE contacts. Um, er ... ok. That's fine, I guess. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But I'm looking for far-more proactive solutions for the emergency folder, like, um, things that *prevent* you from being dead in the first place. To that end, previously I found a ton of Android emergency apps (most of which seemed to be SMS-related, and GPS location alert related). The problem on Android is that there are so many, all the work is in selecting and testing the few that you want to keep. Googling for iOS emergency apps, the first hit is both Android/iOS: 7 essential personal safety apps for emergency situations http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/1...tuations/#gref Which lists these: - Guardly (connects you with your security organization) - LINE Messenger (disaster stuff) - Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff) - Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA) - Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button) - ICE app (same as iOS unlock screen stuff) I only quickly skimmed that article, but they all seem scamm'ish to me, so I'll move on to other apps (unless someone says otherwise). This article lists five free apps "that can call for help": 5 Free Personal Safety Apps that Can Call For Help http://www.techlicious.com/tip/free-...l-safety-apps/ 1. bSafe (broadcasts video and beeps and calls people when you are scared) 2. Kitestring (keeps asking you if you're ok, and if not, it alerts others) 3. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!) 4. Bugle (leave the phone at home & it calls the cops if you don't return) 5. Samsung Safety Assistance (notify a list of contacts) As usual, if you read two articles that are supposedly on the same topic, and *none* of the apps cross pollinate, that's a sign that the scammish nature of the apps is predominant. (It's not proof - just a sign.) Moving on to this (and noting the source), at least some apps finally cross pollinate, which is a better sign that you're getting slightly closer to the good stuff: 11 apps that can save your life in case of an emergency http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2438105 1. Medical ID (same as the ICE stuff above) 2. ICE Standard (same as ICE stuff above) 3. Bugle (calls the cops if you don't get back to your phone in time) 4. Kitestring (nags you and then alerts others if you don't respond) 5. Family Locator/Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA) 6. Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button) 7. Siren GPS (calls 911 and sends them your GPS location) 8. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!) 9. Guardly (calls your company security team) 10. Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff) 11. Natural Disaster Monitor (less personal scare mongering disaster stuff) There were plenty of other articles on the subject but this post is too long already: DISCLAIMER: I only *skimmed* the articles for the gist of what the apps do, since the true measure of an app is how horrendous it is in setup and use, not what the marketing guys "say" it will do. |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.) That health app, which, I guess does its job *after* you're dead and your screen is still locked, doesn't seem to exist on "my" iPad, at least not if it's named "health.anything". My iPad was, on purpose, kept on 7.x for as long as possible (since Apple screws up things outside the walled garden) so when I was forced to move (due to kids complaining games no longer would work on 7.x) it was to 9.something, thankfully skipping 8.whatever altogether. Since the health app came with iOS 8, maybe that's why I don't have it? Or do none of the iPads have that Health app by default? |
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On Tue, 27 Sep 2016 22:35:52 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you put inside)? Based on the response, people don't seem to create much of an emergency folder nor do they do much about emergency apps. Googling for apps, most found seem to be cross platform (as they should be), so, it's not an iOS or Android-specific problem - but relates to all mobile devices. The plethora of supposed emergency apps is apparent from just the first few Google hits, as everyone seems to want to get in on the bandwagon, so it would take a *lot* of effort to come up with the best apps on my own. Since others aren't adding much value, we'll probably get nowhere further on this task, but to help out a bit, I'll review the next hit after briefly skimming it for useful details... iPhone/iPad Apps for emergencies http://appadvice.com/applists/show/apps-for-emergencies Here's just my first impression of the free ones, in order: 1. wikiHow: How to and DIY Survival Kit (jesus ... are they serious?) 2. RepairPal: Auto Repair Expert (omg ... they are serious?) 3. iWrecked - Auto accident assistant (jesus christ ... they're serious?) 4. Winter Survival Kit (omg ... more of the same) 5. iTriage (jesus ... more crap) 6. SPOT Connect (a satellite service - but how does it work?) Other than the potential for "SPOT Connect" to be a potentially useful app, the rest, based only on my initial inspection, defy any real definition other than "jesus christ ... are they serious?". Let's hope the next hit is better: 50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device! http://prepared-housewives.com/emerg...ave-your-life/ |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 03:01:46 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
Let's hope the next hit is better: 50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device! http://prepared-housewives.com/emerg...ave-your-life/ Looking at the list of 50 emergency apps that "turn your phone into a life-saving device"... 50 Emergency Apps: Turn Your Phone into a Life-Saving Device! http://prepared-housewives.com/emerg...ave-your-life/ Skimming the list, and eliminating all the "Diy emergency" apps out of hand, at the beginning, there's the normal ICE stuff after the crap-DIY stuff (both of which I find to be basically useless), and then there are "organizational stuff" apps. For example... Who know the Red Cross has emergency apps such as this: Wildfire - American Red Cross By American Red Cross https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...m.cube.arc.wfa Interestingly, along with all the "disaster alert" apps, they do have the scanner app we've been touting as KISS and unobtrusively free, namely 5-0 Scanner for iOS and Scanner for Android. The article touts an app called "Map Droyd" which claims it works without cell service (duh, all offline maps work that way), so I don't know what the big deal is, but I hadn't heard of "map droyd" before so I'll check it out separately. There's also "Google Sky Map" (which I didn't know existed either), which maps the stars. Having grown up hiking and camping all the time, I can navigate by the stars on my own in the northern hemisphere, but it's probably useful for others who don't know how to tell direction from a quick glance through clouds at the sky. The isocline map they tout is "Back Country Navigator", and the OSM map they list is "GPS Grid Reference". They tout MotionX GPS Drive for offline use navigating on roads, and again we see the potentially useful "Spot Connect" which purports to use satellite messaging (which I'm not sure how exactly that works from a non-satellite phone when you have no signal whatsoever). After the map selection, there is a ton of cpr-related medical garbage, and then we see "red panic button" again, which seems simple enough to be somewhat useful if set up correctly. After that, there were the inevitable scare mongering social networking apps such as life360 and social alert... And the article ends with a handful of completely unrelated apps that they claim are useful, but in that list are "calculator" and "camera", so, it's a waste of time to get that far into the article before it ends. Overall, only two apps strike me as potentially worth a second look, which are the satellite connection app (how the heck *can* it work?) and the panic button app - which seems simple enough if it doesn't require logins and idiotic marketing stuff to work). |
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Horace Algier wrote
Rod Speed wrote Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. OK. Now I get it. It's sort of like this app: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ice-...412786820?mt=8 If you're dead (or dying), and your iDevice (maybe just the phone and not the iPad?) is still locked, the "bit of the health app" that you're talking about, "tells" your good samartan whatever you wanted to tell them in the ICE contacts. Yep. Um, er ... ok. That's fine, I guess. Nothing whatsoever wrong with that. But no need to put it in any emergency folder or anything similar, because once its setup, it happens completely automatically. That's why I meant to delete that bit that I first thought that you were talking about when I realised that you meant something else, and forgot to edit that out from my original response before I hit the send button. But I'm looking for far-more proactive solutions for the emergency folder, like, um, things that *prevent* you from being dead in the first place. Sure. To that end, previously I found a ton of Android emergency apps (most of which seemed to be SMS-related, and GPS location alert related). The problem on Android is that there are so many, all the work is in selecting and testing the few that you want to keep. Yeah, pretty similar on iOS and since much of what I want in that regard isnt unique to emergency situations but are used all the time like google maps and other stuff like that, no need to put them in an emergency folder or anything like that, although I spose that might make some sense when setting those up for someone else on their phone etc particularly if they are the sort of person who might well end up rather flustered in an emergency situation etc. But IMO it makes more sense to have emergency phone numbers in a group in the standard contacts because that is where it makes rather more sense to have emergency phone numbers IMO. Or best to have the numbers in both so wherever anyone looks, they will be found immediately which would be useful in an emergency. Googling for iOS emergency apps, the first hit is both Android/iOS: 7 essential personal safety apps for emergency situations http://thenextweb.com/insider/2015/1...tuations/#gref Which lists these: - Guardly (connects you with your security organization) - LINE Messenger (disaster stuff) - Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff) - Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA) - Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button) - ICE app (same as iOS unlock screen stuff) I only quickly skimmed that article, but they all seem scamm'ish to me, so I'll move on to other apps (unless someone says otherwise). This article lists five free apps "that can call for help": 5 Free Personal Safety Apps that Can Call For Help http://www.techlicious.com/tip/free-...l-safety-apps/ 1. bSafe (broadcasts video and beeps and calls people when you are scared) 2. Kitestring (keeps asking you if you're ok, and if not, it alerts others) 3. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!) 4. Bugle (leave the phone at home & it calls the cops if you don't return) 5. Samsung Safety Assistance (notify a list of contacts) I think there is something to be said for an app that either works out when you have got up and if you haven't, eventually asks if you are alright and if you don’t respond, calls the numbers you specify. That would be useful for those who live alone and would hopefully catch most of the situations where you say fall and can't get up and don’t have your phone with you at the time and so can't call for assistance yourself etc. As usual, if you read two articles that are supposedly on the same topic, and *none* of the apps cross pollinate, that's a sign that the scammish nature of the apps is predominant. (It's not proof - just a sign.) Moving on to this (and noting the source), at least some apps finally cross pollinate, which is a better sign that you're getting slightly closer to the good stuff: 11 apps that can save your life in case of an emergency http://www.nydailynews.com/news/worl...icle-1.2438105 1. Medical ID (same as the ICE stuff above) 2. ICE Standard (same as ICE stuff above) 3. Bugle (calls the cops if you don't get back to your phone in time) 4. Kitestring (nags you and then alerts others if you don't respond) 5. Family Locator/Life360 (tracks you and your family for the NSA) 6. Red Panic Button (calls the cops when press the button) 7. Siren GPS (calls 911 and sends them your GPS location) 8. SafeTrek (alert police when you *lift* your thumb *off* the red button!) 9. Guardly (calls your company security team) 10. Disaster Alert (scare mongering disaster stuff) 11. Natural Disaster Monitor (less personal scare mongering disaster stuff) There were plenty of other articles on the subject but this post is too long already: DISCLAIMER: I only *skimmed* the articles for the gist of what the apps do, since the true measure of an app is how horrendous it is in setup and use, not what the marketing guys "say" it will do. |
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"Horace Algier" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.) That health app, which, I guess does its job *after* you're dead and your screen is still locked, doesn't seem to exist on "my" iPad, at least not if it's named "health.anything". My iPad was, on purpose, kept on 7.x for as long as possible (since Apple screws up things outside the walled garden) so when I was forced to move (due to kids complaining games no longer would work on 7.x) it was to 9.something, thankfully skipping 8.whatever altogether. Since the health app came with iOS 8, maybe that's why I don't have it? Or do none of the iPads have that Health app by default? That's correct, its only on the iphones and ipod touchs. |
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On 2016-09-30 02:51:53 +0000, Horace Algier said:
On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.) http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12 -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On 2016-09-30 06:58:36 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2016-09-30 02:51:53 +0000, Horace Algier said: On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 09:23:10 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: Rod, can you elucidate a little bit on what you were alluding to when you mentioned there was some kind of emergency mechanism on iOS? That bit of the health app that allows anyone to see that on the lock screen of your phone. Oh. OK. Thanks. Maybe that health app is only on the phone, but still, it's not a big deal (I like the emergency-SMS apps I outlined better, for example, as they do what we'd need in an emergency before we're dead.) http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12 ....but it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2. -- Regards, Savageduck |
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On Thu, 29 Sep 2016 18:38:24 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier wrote:
Just long press on the app icon, and you can change the name to anything you want. Not here (Android 2.3.5): I long press on an app icon (in the display of all apps) and an options dialogue comes up: [ Add to Home | Add to group ]. Or, I long press on an app icon on a home screen and when the icon vibrates I can drag it elsewhere, wherever I want. But rename it? Sorry, not here. Cheers, -- tlvp -- Avant de repondre, jeter la poubelle, SVP. |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 04:21:54 -0400, tlvp wrote:
Not here (Android 2.3.5): I long press on an app icon (in the display of all apps) and an options dialogue comes up: [ Add to Home | Add to group ]. Or, I long press on an app icon on a home screen and when the icon vibrates I can drag it elsewhere, wherever I want. But rename it? Sorry, not here You need a launcher that supports naming. I realize you are on Andriod 2.x while I'm on 4.x, but one question for you: Does your Android support the Nova free launcher? If it does, Nova free is fantastic and does a *lot* of things the stock launchers don't do (e.g., mine came with the TouchWiz launcher which sucks by way of comparison). |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:45:35 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
I think there is something to be said for an app that either works out when you have got up and if you haven't, eventually asks if you are alright and if you don¢t respond, calls the numbers you specify. That would be useful for those who live alone and would hopefully catch most of the situations where you say fall and can't get up and don¢t have your phone with you at the time and so can't call for assistance yourself etc. I was thinking about that old American commercial, a few decades ago, where an old lady falls down the stairs and says "I've fallen and I can't get up". It was perfectly tuned MARKETING fear mongering, and FUD worked as well then as it does now. Still, for those who *need* it, I can't possibly disagree with you, that it will make them *feel* safe to have the app constantly nag them to ask if they're OK. I could even use it, I guess, when I go pot farmer hunting ... Pssst.... it won't help me because *feeling* safe and *being* safe are two totally different things ... but they might be able to locate the body for a decent burial. |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 00:06:10 -0700, Savageduck wrote:
http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12 ...but it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2. Since iOS people buy the things primarily to *feel* safe, it's not surprising that some people tout this rather minor and privacy invasive e lock-screen ICE note as a "safety" feature. I don't have an iPhone (I have iPads), so, if the Medical ID is *designed* to *require* a log in to an Internet site, it's doubly bad (from a privacy standpoint). Even in iOS8 on an iPhone, others have made persuasive arguments *not* to use this Medical ID "feature", as outlined in this article: https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/iphone-medical-id/ How, Why, and Why Not to Use the iPhone Medical ID Since you said something changed in iOS 10 with respect to this ICE feature, I found this: How to Access Medical ID from Lock Screen in iOS 10 on iPhone/iPad https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-ac...een-in-ios-10/ It doesn't say anything about iOS 10.0.2, per se, and a quick search didn't find anything related to the Medical ID in 10.0.2 specifically, so I'm not sure what you're alluding to when you say it no longer works that way in 10.0.2 other than what the article says above. In short though, Medical ID is exactly what I'd expect from Apple users who merely want to *feel* safe, without actually *being* safe. |
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On 9/27/2016 6:35 PM, Horace Algier wrote:
Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you put inside)? snip... Simple answer is: if you've been sensible and put a strong passcode on your phone then anything in this EMERGENCY folder will be pretty much useless unless someone manages to break into your phone if they lay hands on it. All I do on my Android devices is to enter a 'lock screen message' which shows my name, mailing address (P.O. Box, not actual street address) and several emergency contact numbers. |
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On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 03:01:46 -0000 (UTC), Horace Algier
wrote: (...) I like to carry *SEARCHABLE* documents instead of apps. For example: You might want to add in NIFOG (National Interoperability Field Operations Guide) from our friends at the DHS. https://www.dhs.gov/publication/nifog-documents There quite a bit of useful info in -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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Per Horace Algier:
Does your Android support the Nova free launcher? If it does, Nova free is fantastic and does a *lot* of things the stock launchers don't do (e.g., mine came with the TouchWiz launcher which sucks by way of comparison). +1... wouldn't have anything else. Another advantage, if you have to use multiple devices, is uniformity: put Nova on all devices and they all look/act the same. -- Pete Cresswell |
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"Horace Algier" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 14:45:35 +1000, Rod Speed wrote: I think there is something to be said for an app that either works out when you have got up and if you haven't, eventually asks if you are alright and if you don¢t respond, calls the numbers you specify. That would be useful for those who live alone and would hopefully catch most of the situations where you say fall and can't get up and don¢t have your phone with you at the time and so can't call for assistance yourself etc. I was thinking about that old American commercial, a few decades ago, where an old lady falls down the stairs and says "I've fallen and I can't get up". It was perfectly tuned MARKETING fear mongering, and FUD worked as well then as it does now. Still, for those who *need* it, I can't possibly disagree with you, that it will make them *feel* safe to have the app constantly nag them to ask if they're OK. I could even use it, I guess, when I go pot farmer hunting ... Pssst.... it won't help me because *feeling* safe and *being* safe are two totally different things ... but they might be able to locate the body for a decent burial. It would help plenty who live alone who have a bad fall and can't get up. There are a few of those on the reality TV series and some found dead who didn’t manage to get any help too. And it happened to a mate of mine too who was so obscenely obese that he managed to fall down behind the bed and it took a crew of at least 6 emergency personnel to get him up again. In his case his wife could call them, but if he had been living alone, it would have avoided him ending up dead. |
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How to create an EMERGENCY folder on a mobile device (and what to put inside)
"Horace Algier" wrote in message ... On Fri, 30 Sep 2016 00:06:10 -0700, Savageduck wrote: http://www.businessinsider.com/iphones-medical-id-could-save-your-life-2015-12 ...but it seems to no longer work that way in iOS 10.0.2. Since iOS people buy the things primarily to *feel* safe, Just another bare faced lie/pathetic excuse for a troll... it's not surprising that some people tout this rather minor and privacy invasive e lock-screen ICE note as a "safety" feature. Corse it’s a safety feature when you are no longer capable of telling the paramedics or hospital who you are etc. I don't have an iPhone (I have iPads), so, if the Medical ID is *designed* to *require* a log in to an Internet site, It doesn’t. Its just a lock that prevents anyone who comes across the phone from using it, no logon to any internet site involved. it's doubly bad (from a privacy standpoint). Having fun thrashing that straw man ? Even in iOS8 on an iPhone, others have made persuasive arguments *not* to use this Medical ID "feature", as outlined in this article: https://www.tekrevue.com/tip/iphone-medical-id/ How, Why, and Why Not to Use the iPhone Medical ID For other reasons, just privacy, because some fools are mindlessly paranoid about their 'privacy' and take stupid unnecessary risks to 'protect' it. Since you said something changed in iOS 10 with respect to this ICE feature, I found this: How to Access Medical ID from Lock Screen in iOS 10 on iPhone/iPad https://www.igeeksblog.com/how-to-ac...een-in-ios-10/ It doesn't say anything about iOS 10.0.2, per se, and a quick search didn't find anything related to the Medical ID in 10.0.2 specifically, so I'm not sure what you're alluding to when you say it no longer works that way in 10.0.2 other than what the article says above. I haven't checked it myself. I do run 10.0.2 but haven't setup the medical id because I don’t have any medical conditions for which it would be useful and because if I am ever found unconscious or completely out of it so badly that I can't identify myself, it will be completely trivial to work out who I am. In short though, Medical ID is exactly what I'd expect from Apple users who merely want to *feel* safe, without actually *being* safe. Even sillier than you usually manage/even more of a pathetic excuse for a troll than you usually manage. |
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How to create an EMERGENCY folder on a mobile device (and what to put inside)
John McGaw wrote
Horace Algier wrote Do you create an EMERGENCY folder on your mobile device (and what do you put inside)? Simple answer is: if you've been sensible and put a strong passcode on your phone then anything in this EMERGENCY folder will be pretty much useless unless someone manages to break into your phone if they lay hands on it. He's actually talking about what he uses himself in emergency situations. All I do on my Android devices is to enter a 'lock screen message' which shows my name, mailing address (P.O. Box, not actual street address) and several emergency contact numbers. That’s not the sort of emergency he is talking about. |
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