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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/acadapter)?
I just got a new home broadband router that has both 2.4GHz & 5GHz
and only then did I realize that both the Windows and Linux laptops don't have a 5GHz Wi-Fi card (both only have 3.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n). Neither has either 5GHz or 802.11 ac. What are my options? Note: I called Dell Hardware Sales for the "Inspiron 15 3521" at 800-289-3355 but they don't even have a part number for an internal 5GHz NIC, so they suggested an external USB stick, Dell part number: $60 + tax (free shipping) Netgear A6068352 $50 + tax (free shipping) Linksys A8024912 Googling, I find some of the specs he "Netgear N900 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter" http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...sku=A6068 352 "Linksys Mini AC Adapter AC580" http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...sku=A8024 912 My question is whether any of you experts has experience fitting an *internal* 5GHz NIC into a Dell laptop, and whether it's true what Dell said, which is that no internal Wi-Fi card will work? If I must add 5GHz Wi-Fi externally, do you have suggestions as to how to get a good 5GHz (ac) Wi-Fi USB stick that is both convenient and powerful at a good price? |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/ac adapter)?
"ceg" wrote in message ... I just got a new home broadband router that has both 2.4GHz & 5GHz and only then did I realize that both the Windows and Linux laptops don't have a 5GHz Wi-Fi card (both only have 3.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n). Neither has either 5GHz or 802.11 ac. What are my options? Note: I called Dell Hardware Sales for the "Inspiron 15 3521" at 800-289-3355 but they don't even have a part number for an internal 5GHz NIC, so they suggested an external USB stick, Dell part number: $60 + tax (free shipping) Netgear A6068352 $50 + tax (free shipping) Linksys A8024912 Googling, I find some of the specs he "Netgear N900 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter" http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...sku=A6068 352 "Linksys Mini AC Adapter AC580" http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...sku=A8024 912 My question is whether any of you experts has experience fitting an *internal* 5GHz NIC into a Dell laptop, and whether it's true what Dell said, which is that no internal Wi-Fi card will work? If I must add 5GHz Wi-Fi externally, do you have suggestions as to how to get a good 5GHz (ac) Wi-Fi USB stick that is both convenient and powerful at a good price? I can't answer you from experience with Dell, but I CAN tell that finding the right replacement for an Acer Aspire laptop can be a venture into frustration and rage. The original was a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 that worked intermittently at best. Tried a couple of different cards, but they weren't recognized by the laptop at all. Finally settled on a Broadcom that works just fine (got it last August): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KOMZM4I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o00_s00 Whether or not it will work with a Dell is anybody's guess, but if Dell is like Acer (and a number of other manufacturers), certain cards seem to be "white-listed" by them, and it will be real fun finding one that will work as it should, if it's even recognized by the laptop. -- SC Tom |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11n/ac adapter)?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 13:41:29 -0400, SC Tom wrote:
Whether or not it will work with a Dell is anybody's guess, The problem is that it has to work in the first shot, since it's a laptop for my kid away at school. She is a government major, so, she knows absolutely nothing about technical stuff (they don't even need math, which is why she picked that major). Sigh. |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/ac adapter)?
In sci.electronics.repair SC Tom wrote:
"ceg" wrote in message ... I just got a new home broadband router that has both 2.4GHz & 5GHz and only then did I realize that both the Windows and Linux laptops don't have a 5GHz Wi-Fi card (both only have 3.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n). Neither has either 5GHz or 802.11 ac. What are my options? Note: I called Dell Hardware Sales for the "Inspiron 15 3521" at 800-289-3355 but they don't even have a part number for an internal 5GHz NIC, so they suggested an external USB stick, Dell part number: $60 + tax (free shipping) Netgear A6068352 $50 + tax (free shipping) Linksys A8024912 Googling, I find some of the specs he "Netgear N900 Wireless Dual Band USB Adapter" http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/p...sku=A6068 352 "Linksys Mini AC Adapter AC580" http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...sku=A8024 912 My question is whether any of you experts has experience fitting an *internal* 5GHz NIC into a Dell laptop, and whether it's true what Dell said, which is that no internal Wi-Fi card will work? If I must add 5GHz Wi-Fi externally, do you have suggestions as to how to get a good 5GHz (ac) Wi-Fi USB stick that is both convenient and powerful at a good price? I can't answer you from experience with Dell, but I CAN tell that finding the right replacement for an Acer Aspire laptop can be a venture into frustration and rage. The original was a Qualcomm Atheros AR5BWB222 that worked intermittently at best. Tried a couple of different cards, but they weren't recognized by the laptop at all. Finally settled on a Broadcom that works just fine (got it last August): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00KOMZM4I?psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailp age_o00_s00 Whether or not it will work with a Dell is anybody's guess, but if Dell is like Acer (and a number of other manufacturers), certain cards seem to be "white-listed" by them, and it will be real fun finding one that will work as it should, if it's even recognized by the laptop. As a datapoint, my Latitude D630 came with an a/b/g card, Also you might try http://www.parts-people.com/ they specialize in dell laptop parts. |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/ac adapter)?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 16:52:49 +0000 (UTC), ceg
wrote: My question is whether any of you experts has experience fitting an *internal* 5GHz NIC into a Dell laptop, and whether it's true what Dell said, which is that no internal Wi-Fi card will work? Yep. I do it all the time. Oddly, most of the requirements are to replace crappy internal cards with something better. I don't really have a favorite replacement except that I now try to avoid Intel. There are two problems you are going to have unless you buy an approved Dell wireless card. 1. The FCC demands that the manufacturers only allow card and laptop combinations that have been FCC certified. Plug in a non-approved card and you are likely to get a BIOS boot message that proclaims that you have installed an incompatible card. There are ways around this, but I prefer to avoid the problem. If you do get the approved card, it is likely that you'll also find drivers on the Dell web pile that will work. 2. Many of the RF cables and connectors are cut for the exact length needed to connect to the original card. I've had to wiggle them around in order to accomodate cards with slightly different layout. 3. Non-MIMO cards have two RF connectors for diversity reception. 2x2 and up MIMO cards have at least 1 antenna per radio. The higher end cards may have 3 antenna connectors. If you're going to use one of these 3x3 cards, you'll need to add a 3rd antenna internally, somewhere. I've had fairly good luck with just a connector and stripping back a few cm of coax shield to form a crude antenna. If I must add 5GHz Wi-Fi externally, do you have suggestions as to how to get a good 5GHz (ac) Wi-Fi USB stick that is both convenient and powerful at a good price? "Good USB" is an oxymoron. Unless you need an external (directional) antenna, I would avoid this option. http://www.dell.com/us/dfh/p/inspiron-15-3521/pd Hmmm... no wi-fi card listed in the specs. Yet, you seem to have one. How to replace the wi-fi card: https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Dell+Inspiron+15-3521+Wireless+Card+Replacement/31938 Video of how to replace the wi-fi card: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TXXxFD07Yyc Typical card vendor: http://www.parts-people.com/index.php?action=category&id=141&subid=427&refine= wifi+card OK, I'm out of time... send me the Dell service tag number on the bottom of the laptop so I determine exactly what you have. More later. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11n/ac adapter)?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:45:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
"Good USB" is an oxymoron. Unless you need an external (directional) antenna, I would avoid this option. The only thing needed is the 5GHz, since the router will be in the same apartment away at school. The review of the Netgear 802.11ac A6200 WiFi Adapter concluded what you said, which is that speeds are terrible. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2422108,00.asp |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11n/ac adapter)?
On Fri, 21 Aug 2015 10:45:50 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
There are two problems you are going to have unless you buy an approved Dell wireless card. Thanks for all the advice. In the short term, I decided to buy a WiFi USB card, since it has to work this weekend, and I don't have time to get the Dell WiFi card until the next visit after school starts. http://i.imgur.com/yw8xgPG.jpg I opted for the same brand as the router, assuming they'd work better together that way, a TP-Link 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac 1200 device (if it works). Here's a picture of the Archer T4U for about $25 at Frys. http://i.imgur.com/yw8xgPG.jpg |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/ac adapter)?
On Friday, August 21, 2015 at 9:52:51 AM UTC-7, ceg wrote:
I just got a new home broadband router that has both 2.4GHz & 5GHz and only then did I realize that both the Windows and Linux laptops don't have a 5GHz Wi-Fi card (both only have 3.4GHz 802.11 b/g/n). Neither has either 5GHz or 802.11 ac. What are my options? Use your router with your Wi-Fi cards. If it bothers you that someone else might use the 5GHz connection, go into the router administrative settings and disable it. There's nothing wrong with 802.11b/g/n. The laptops needn't use the wireless at all, you can (and probably in an apartment with lots of neighbors, will prefer to) use a wired connection from the main machine's desk to the router. |
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My 5GHz Wi-Fi is broken (how to add an internal 5GHz 802.11 n/ac adapter)?
I know your all done, but the performance of Wireless AC can only be utilized with USB 3.0. The USB 2.0 limit of 480 Mbps
That said, I grabed a USB to MINI PCI contraption to try out an Intel Wireless AC/BT card. Glad I did. The card is not supported by the linux 12.04 kerna. You have to backport and compile an older Kernal for it to work. I haven't done that nor upgraded. I'm still on the slow end of the stick with DSL, but I had a hard time convincing Verizon that I had NO use for a Wireless N router with a 100 MBPS Ethernet port. Besides that, my AP is where it belongs (the center of the house) and the DS modem where it belongs (within 6' of the NID). Before running wires, I used a power over Ethernet to make that connection. Long long ago before DSL and Cable modems, I had wireless b WIFI over a DIAL-UP. Ok, great, you you get say wireless n at 300 mbps and say you can sustain it, the Ethernet pipe is still limited to 100 Mbps. For "NORMAL" people that may be OK, but not when you want to connect to a Networked attached server with gigabit ports. |
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