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Recently I snagged an old Tandy 1000 desktop for my collection that
came with a CM-4 Tandy CGA monitor. The system worked just fine for
about 20 minutes and then the video screen went blank. The power light
stayed on and there was some kind of buzzing going on inside but no
magic smoke that I could see (slight bit of smell but nothing crazy
could have been dust). I turned it off and let it sit a bit and turned
it on again. The power light is on, no video shows, and I get that
same buzzing noise. Since it doesn't show video after it cooled down I
figured it wasn't heat related (cracked solder). I tested the Tandy
1000 with another CGA monitor and it works just fine.

I removed the back casing and took the main board out of the monitor.
Both fuses are intact and I don't see anything burnt or popped,
visually all the components look fine with no overheated areas visible
to me and no chips with plastic blown off..

Any idea what has died? Would hate to toss a hard to find CGA monitor.
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On May 3, 5:30*pm, Powermac wrote:
Recently I snagged an old Tandy 1000 desktop for my collection that
came with a CM-4 Tandy CGA monitor. The system worked just fine for
about 20 minutes and then the video screen went blank. The power light
stayed on and there was some kind of buzzing going on inside but no
magic smoke that I could see (slight bit of smell but nothing crazy
could have been dust). I turned it off and let it sit a bit and turned
it on again. The power light is on, no video shows, and I get that
same buzzing noise. Since it doesn't show video after it cooled down I
figured it wasn't heat related (cracked solder). I tested the Tandy
1000 with another CGA monitor and it works just fine.

I removed the back casing and took the main board out of the monitor.
Both fuses are intact and I don't see anything burnt or popped,
visually all the components look fine with no overheated areas visible
to me and no chips with plastic blown off..

Any idea what has died? Would hate to toss a hard to find CGA monitor.


With everything back together, but with the back off, turn it on and
see if the CRT filament lights up. That's step 1. Step 2 is to check
the high-voltage going to the clip on the side of the CRT. Do you
have any electronics or tv repair experience?
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With everything back together, but with the back off, turn it on and
see if the CRT filament lights up. *That's step 1. *Step 2 is to check
the high-voltage going to the clip on the side of the CRT. *Do you
have any electronics or tv repair experience?- Hide quoted text -

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What kind of light should I be seeing at the back of the tube when it
is on (specific color or just any light)?

What voltage should be at the clip on the side of the CRT (under the
rubber)? Checking it to ground with a multimeter or to a specific
point on the board?

I don't have much experience with TV repair other then replacing a
part here and there , I do have experience with electronics mostly
fixing old computer equipment I collect. Usually if a CRT monitor
blows up or gets fuzzy from old age I just replace it unless it is
hard to replace (like this one).


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Powermac wrote:
On May 3, 10:51 pm, "hr(bob) "
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With everything back together, but with the back off, turn it on and
see if the CRT filament lights up. That's step 1. Step 2 is to check
the high-voltage going to the clip on the side of the CRT. Do you
have any electronics or tv repair experience?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


What kind of light should I be seeing at the back of the tube when it
is on (specific color or just any light)?

What voltage should be at the clip on the side of the CRT (under the
rubber)? Checking it to ground with a multimeter or to a specific
point on the board?

I don't have much experience with TV repair other then replacing a
part here and there , I do have experience with electronics mostly
fixing old computer equipment I collect. Usually if a CRT monitor
blows up or gets fuzzy from old age I just replace it unless it is
hard to replace (like this one).


Don't check with a meter under the cap when it's on thats the high
voltage in the thousands of volts maybe 20KV it takes a high voltage
probe to read that.
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On May 4, 1:49*am, mark wrote:
Powermac wrote:
On May 3, 10:51 pm, "hr(bob) "
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With everything back together, but with the back off, turn it on and
see if the CRT filament lights up. *That's step 1. *Step 2 is to check
the high-voltage going to the clip on the side of the CRT. *Do you
have any electronics or tv repair experience?- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


What kind of light should I be seeing at the back of the tube when it
is on (specific color or just any light)?


What voltage should be at the clip on the side of the CRT (under the
rubber)? Checking it to ground with a multimeter or to a specific
point on the board?


I don't have much experience with TV repair other then replacing a
part here and there , I do have experience with electronics mostly
fixing old computer equipment I collect. Usually if a CRT monitor
blows up or gets fuzzy from old age I just replace it unless it is
hard to replace (like this one).


* *Don't check with a meter under the cap when it's on thats the high
* * voltage in the thousands of volts maybe 20KV it takes a high voltage
probe to read that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just got around to checking the monitor with the back off, there is no
light at all in the back of the tube, just a bunch of noise when I put
power to it like a small jey taking off.

Any ideas?


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Powermac wrote:
On May 4, 1:49 am, mark wrote:
Powermac wrote:
On May 3, 10:51 pm, "hr(bob) "
wrote:
With everything back together, but with the back off, turn it on and
see if the CRT filament lights up. That's step 1. Step 2 is to check
the high-voltage going to the clip on the side of the CRT. Do you
have any electronics or tv repair experience?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
What kind of light should I be seeing at the back of the tube when it
is on (specific color or just any light)?
What voltage should be at the clip on the side of the CRT (under the
rubber)? Checking it to ground with a multimeter or to a specific
point on the board?
I don't have much experience with TV repair other then replacing a
part here and there , I do have experience with electronics mostly
fixing old computer equipment I collect. Usually if a CRT monitor
blows up or gets fuzzy from old age I just replace it unless it is
hard to replace (like this one).

Don't check with a meter under the cap when it's on thats the high
voltage in the thousands of volts maybe 20KV it takes a high voltage
probe to read that.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Just got around to checking the monitor with the back off, there is no
light at all in the back of the tube,


That means you've got no filament power. You should normally see a
red/orange glow.

just a bunch of noise when I put
power to it like a small jey taking off.

Any ideas?



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Powermac wrote:
Recently I snagged an old Tandy 1000 desktop for my collection that
came with a CM-4 Tandy CGA monitor. The system worked just fine for
about 20 minutes and then the video screen went blank. The power light
stayed on and there was some kind of buzzing going on inside but no
magic smoke that I could see (slight bit of smell but nothing crazy
could have been dust). I turned it off and let it sit a bit and turned
it on again. The power light is on, no video shows, and I get that
same buzzing noise. Since it doesn't show video after it cooled down I
figured it wasn't heat related (cracked solder). I tested the Tandy
1000 with another CGA monitor and it works just fine.

I removed the back casing and took the main board out of the monitor.
Both fuses are intact and I don't see anything burnt or popped,
visually all the components look fine with no overheated areas visible
to me and no chips with plastic blown off..

Any idea what has died? Would hate to toss a hard to find CGA monitor.


Fire it up with the cover off & look for arcing on the flyback
transformer & around the ultor cap.

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