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this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set
can I use a PH33J when a 33G is recommended? then only references I found online were commercial sites with no datasheets TIA B |
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![]() "b" wrote in message ... this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set can I use a PH33J when a 33G is recommended? then only references I found online were commercial sites with no datasheets TIA B Generally speaking you can use any of the different manufacturers parts so long as its specified for use as a 33V tuner varicap supply stabiliser. |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:32:14 -0800 (PST), b
put finger to keyboard and composed: this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set Are you sure? The following forum thread suggests that the PH-33J is equivalent to the BYD33J, in which case your diode is not a "stabiliser": http://www.forumnow.com.br/vip/mensa...topico=2630665 This site lists it under Schottky diodes: http://chinaimportexport.wikispaces....uits,IC,Diodes Confusingly, this stock list shows a PH-33V as a 33V 1W part: http://www.rccomponent.com/class-121.pdf A typical use for a 33V stabiliser would be in the tuning voltage supply. Is this where it is used? can I use a PH33J when a 33G is recommended? then only references I found online were commercial sites with no datasheets TIA B This list of Philips marking codes attributes a code of "33J PH" to the BYD33J (fast soft-recovery controlled avalanche rectifier): http://www.datasheetarchive.com/pdf/...SA00399242.pdf Here is a datasheet for the BYD33 diode: http://www.ilriparatore.it/pagine/va...61/BYD33_3.pdf Assuming your PH33J is a Philips part, as suggested by a search at http://www.usbid.com, then the above datasheet suggests that the suffix denotes a particular rating, in this case the VRRM. VRRM repetitive peak reverse voltage ------------------------------------ BYD33D - 200 V BYD33G - 400 V BYD33J - 600 V BYD33K - 800 V BYD33M - 1000 V BYD33U - 1200 V BYD33V - 1400 V While the same suffix for a zener would be comparing different parameters, it would at least appear that the J part has a better rating than the G part. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On 25 feb, 21:06, Franc Zabkar wrote:
On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:32:14 -0800 (PST), b put finger to keyboard and composed: this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set Are you sure? The following forum thread suggests that the PH-33J is equivalent to the BYD33J, in which case your diode is not a "stabiliser":http://www.forumnow.com.br/vip/mensa...topico=2630665 This site lists it under Schottky diodes:http://chinaimportexport.wikispaces....nufacturer+Sto... Confusingly, this stock list shows a PH-33V as a 33V 1W part:http://www.rccomponent.com/class-121.pdf Thanks a lot for all the info. Hmm, looks like it may not be the right thing. Yes, this is in the 33v line to the tuner of the TV. it is replacing a TAA 550. (symptoms: set searching but not finding anything, just snow. Tuner supply down to about 5v) not only that, but I fitted it this afternoon and tried the set, I got a picture but tuning lock was unsteady especially when channels were changed. To my surprise I measured some 50v on that line instead of the usual 30v! Obviously something is amiss. Apparently I can use a KA33V stabilizer in lieu of the TAA 550, so I'll get one and see. -B |
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On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 13:54:03 -0800 (PST), b
put finger to keyboard and composed: On 25 feb, 21:06, Franc Zabkar wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:32:14 -0800 (PST), b put finger to keyboard and composed: this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set Are you sure? The following forum thread suggests that the PH-33J is equivalent to the BYD33J, in which case your diode is not a "stabiliser":http://www.forumnow.com.br/vip/mensa...topico=2630665 This site lists it under Schottky diodes:http://chinaimportexport.wikispaces....nufacturer+Sto... Confusingly, this stock list shows a PH-33V as a 33V 1W part:http://www.rccomponent.com/class-121.pdf Thanks a lot for all the info. Hmm, looks like it may not be the right thing. Yes, this is in the 33v line to the tuner of the TV. it is replacing a TAA 550. (symptoms: set searching but not finding anything, just snow. Tuner supply down to about 5v) not only that, but I fitted it this afternoon and tried the set, I got a picture but tuning lock was unsteady especially when channels were changed. To my surprise I measured some 50v on that line instead of the usual 30v! Obviously something is amiss. Apparently I can use a KA33V stabilizer in lieu of the TAA 550, so I'll get one and see. -B The 33V supply is probably derived from a rectified 50V pulse from the flyback transformer. It most likely consists of a rectifier diode, capacitor, series resistor, and the TAA550 33V precision zener. If a reverse biased rectifier diode were installed in place of the original TAA550, then the full 50V would have appeared on the supply rail. - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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![]() "b" wrote in message ... On 25 feb, 21:06, Franc Zabkar wrote: On Wed, 25 Feb 2009 04:32:14 -0800 (PST), b put finger to keyboard and composed: this is a 33v stabilizer from a 14" tv set Are you sure? The following forum thread suggests that the PH-33J is equivalent to the BYD33J, in which case your diode is not a "stabiliser":http://www.forumnow.com.br/vip/mensa...topico=2630665 This site lists it under Schottky diodes:http://chinaimportexport.wikispaces....nufacturer+Sto... Confusingly, this stock list shows a PH-33V as a 33V 1W part:http://www.rccomponent.com/class-121.pdf Thanks a lot for all the info. Hmm, looks like it may not be the right thing. Yes, this is in the 33v line to the tuner of the TV. it is replacing a TAA 550. (symptoms: set searching but not finding anything, just snow. Tuner supply down to about 5v) not only that, but I fitted it this afternoon and tried the set, I got a picture but tuning lock was unsteady especially when channels were changed. To my surprise I measured some 50v on that line instead of the usual 30v! Obviously something is amiss. Apparently I can use a KA33V stabilizer in lieu of the TAA 550, so I'll get one and see. -B Some TVs use this (33V part): http://www.ebg-darmstadt.de/pdf/ZTK.pdf |
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On 25 feb, 23:27, "ian field" wrote:
Some TVs use this (33V part):http://www.ebg-darmstadt.de/pdf/ZTK.pdf I think that is what I mistook that part for. There is one thomson chassis which uses it. Anyway, after replacing the susepct regulator with the KA33V all is well. |
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