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Teac FD-235GF 3156-u replacement
Hi all,
I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg |
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gcd wrote:
Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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"Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg |
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gcd wrote:
"Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg I've made a note about that difference ! I have some weird HP kit kicking about with 3.5" floppies in them ! Without looking I'm sure that they are Teac drives. I'll find out tomorrow. -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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Baron wrote:
gcd wrote: "Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg I've made a note about that difference ! I have some weird HP kit kicking about with 3.5" floppies in them ! Without looking I'm sure that they are Teac drives. I'll find out tomorrow. Hi Greg, I've had a look through a number of bits of HP kit ! They are all Teac FD-235-HF's I'm afraid. I'm very sorry about that ! I felt sure that I could help. :-( -- Best Regards: Baron. |
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"Baron" wrote in message ... Baron wrote: gcd wrote: "Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg I've made a note about that difference ! I have some weird HP kit kicking about with 3.5" floppies in them ! Without looking I'm sure that they are Teac drives. I'll find out tomorrow. Hi Greg, I've had a look through a number of bits of HP kit ! They are all Teac FD-235-HF's I'm afraid. I'm very sorry about that ! I felt sure that I could help. :-( -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, no problems. Thanks for looking though. I've had some success using a standard pc drive. Had to use DS0 rather than DS1 (expected) and needed to ensure the drive was using disk change on pin 34. The only thing that is still a little peculiar is the density select and whether it's an input/output or both. Using a standard PC drive I need to use a HD disk but cover over the HD hole and that seems to work reliably. On the original drive I would use HD without covering up the hole. The only issues I end up with is that the drive light is always 1/2 on when not in use. I'll keep looking for FD-235GF data and playing around. i'ts almost sorted now Thanks Greg |
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Teac FD-235GF 3156-u replacement
"Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg |
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"gcd" wrote in message ... "Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg *** Do any of these help? http://www.teac.com/DSPD/pdf/3fd0105a.pdf http://www.google.com.au/search?num=...G=Search&meta= http://www.hkinventory.com/public/Of...=0&datecode = Larry |
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"Larry" wrote in message u... "gcd" wrote in message ... "Baron" wrote in message ... gcd wrote: Hi all, I have an Advantest network analyser that uses a Teac FD-235GF 3156-U floppy drive. Teac cannot/willnot provide any information on the drive or a suitable teac replacement. They tell me it's a proprietary drive and to contact Advantest. Advantest won't help either, the analyser is past service support life. Anyone have a collection of NOS or even used FD-235GF 3156-U drives I can buy ( want around 3-5) Or - anyone have any info on the teac 235-gf apart from the teac.jp website glossy and any knowledge of a suitable replacement? If I can determine what the jumper settings mean perhaps I can find another drive that would suit. Anyone have a copy of the service manual for the drive that identifies the jumper settings? The jumper configuration for the drive as installed in the 3762ah is per the following list. A1-B1,B4-C4,B3-C3,D4-E4, F1-G1 D1-D2, E2-E3, G3-G4 Any help appreciated Thanks Greg That could just be a standard PC floppy drive. Teac FD-235's are/used to be used in IBM compatible PC's. I'm sure I have some kicking around. I'll have a look on Monday when I get into work. -- Best Regards: Baron. Hi Baron, the PC drives are FD-235 HF not GF as far as I've been able to identify and the jumper set is different. For the most part I reckon all I need is to know the jumper matrix settings, from there I should be able to sort out modifying any current drive to suit. However, if you do find some GF drives I would be most interested. Thanks for the help Greg *** Do any of these help? http://www.teac.com/DSPD/pdf/3fd0105a.pdf http://www.google.com.au/search?num=...G=Search&meta= http://www.hkinventory.com/public/Of...=0&datecode = Larry Hi Larry, thanks for the links - unfortunately not much use I'm afraid. I hadn't seen that pdf on the teac site but as it was about HG to HF differences no mention of the GF drive. I'm particularly looking for the GF drive not the HF drive. The jumper pad on this drive allows for all sorts of non standard pinout configurations such as density select on pin 6 rather than 2 etc. The problem is some of these interfaces have changed over time, for example the density select can be either an input or an output or both depending on the drive and the controller and without the jumper data I'm not sure how the drive is actually configured to operate. The controller on the drive is a T4A34F, again no luck in finding any info on this chip to allow me to identify what pin goes to what jumper. If anyone has a datasheet on that teac IC that would also be of some use. Thanks Greg |
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On Sun, 22 Feb 2009 14:23:57 +1100, "gcd"
put finger to keyboard and composed: such as density select on pin 6 rather than 2 etc. The problem is some of these interfaces have changed over time, for example the density select can be either an input or an output or both depending on the drive and the controller and without the jumper data I'm not sure how the drive is actually configured to operate. FWIW, this document refers to FD55-GFR 5.25" drives: http://www.teac.com/DSPD/pdf/5fd0050a.pdf There is an LG strap and an I strap that define how the drive behaves in lo-den and hi-den modes. The controller on the drive is a T4A34F, again no luck in finding any info on this chip to allow me to identify what pin goes to what jumper. If anyone has a datasheet on that teac IC that would also be of some use. Thanks Greg - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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You might want to pose this question to the floppy hardware gurus at
"Individual Computers." They make a product called the "Catweasel" which reads all floppy formats known to man. as such, they proabably have some experience with drives. http://siliconsonic.de/contact/contact_e.htm Or Tim Mann is also a floppy guru. http://www.tim-mann.org/catweasel.html |
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