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Heinz Schmitz wrote: Michael A. Terrell wrote: There are a lot of things that are involved in MTBF. Yes, indeed. But I guess that we are interested in those which we can influence. Like e.g. (?) - heating before applying anode voltage, - avoiding long periods without anode current, Useless on low power vacuum tubes that are not used in some bizarre circuit. Its a different matter on high power transmitter tubes. Your kind posting shares a property with many usenet postings: It provokes the most valuable question: "Why?". So the real question is, is there anyone out there that can give a comprehensive answer as to why? Even the belief stated above that "Its a different matter on high power transmitter tubes" with respect to "heating before applying anode voltage" appears questionable. Some 45 years ago I worked at several different stations as a broadcast engineer and the old-timers there trained us young kids to be sure we thoroughly warmed up the filaments before applying the plate power. The precise reasons for doing this were never made completely clear. With the notable exception of one newly installed RCA BTF-10D,the vast majority of the transmitters I worked with used mercury vapor rectifiers, one even used two stacked banks of mercury vapor rectifiers to provide the 17 kV B+ voltage. Obviously in transmitters using mercury vapor rectifiers it is necessary to warm the rectifier filaments up before applying power to the plate transformer(s), since dire things would transpire if the mercury wasn't properly vaporized before the rectifiers where hit with power from the plate transformer(s). But ignoring the mercury vapor rectifiers was it really necessary to warm up the power tubes before applying plate power? I was surprised a few years back to read in the instruction manual for a tube transmitter the statement that it was not necessary to warm up the power tube filaments before applying plate voltage! And they weren't just saying that the automatic sequencer would take care of the correct sequencing of the filament and plate power, the statement made clear that they were talking about actually applying filament and plate power to the tube simultaneously. I found this surprising since I had been trained to warm up the power tubes before applying the plate voltage, and there are other reasons for warm up, so I asked about this on a forum or newsgroup, the exact one has escaped me. A current broadcast engineer replied and said yes that was true, it was generally not necessary to warm up most power tube filaments before applying the plate voltage. He did go on to explain that this was not universally the case however and said there were certain types of tubes that did need to be warmed up first, but I have forgotten what the reason was that he gave, probably something about filament construction or material. So does anyone have a comprehensive explanation of this cathode warm up issue, for both low power and high power tubes? -- Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://fmamradios.com/ |
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