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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote:
Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. It works fine except for the HDMI input. When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See: http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote: Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. It works fine except for the HDMI input. When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See: http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve Yeah, I've read that. I haven't taken the back off, but I bought it second-hand, so it could have been serviced in the past. However, there is a way to reset the HDMI module from within the service menu (you do a self-check, then turn off the tv from within the menu and unplug for 30 seconds, according to a few forums I've read). However, I don't know how to get into this service menu. |
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:04:42 GMT, jordo wrote:
Steve wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote: Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. It works fine except for the HDMI input. When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See: http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve Yeah, I've read that. I haven't taken the back off, but I bought it second-hand, so it could have been serviced in the past. However, there is a way to reset the HDMI module from within the service menu (you do a self-check, then turn off the tv from within the menu and unplug for 30 seconds, according to a few forums I've read). However, I don't know how to get into this service menu. Thats not what I was told by JVC, but if you think it will fix it give it a try; SERVICE MENU setting a) Press [SLEEP TIMER] key and, while the indication of SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN is being displayed, press [DISPLAY] key and [VIDEO STATUS] key on the remote control unit (Fig.2) simultaneously. b) The SERVICE MENU screen of Fig.1 is displayed. c) Verify what to set in the SERVICE MENU, and set whatever is necessary Be very careful NOT to change any settings if you don't want to create a boat ancor. Steve Steve Tomaszewski N2PTJ 6 North Hill Dr Ballston Lake, NY 12019 518-877-5528 |
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![]() "Steve" nowhere.com wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:04:42 GMT, jordo wrote: Steve wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote: Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. It works fine except for the HDMI input. When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() still doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See: http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve Yeah, I've read that. I haven't taken the back off, but I bought it second-hand, so it could have been serviced in the past. However, there is a way to reset the HDMI module from within the service menu (you do a self-check, then turn off the tv from within the menu and unplug for 30 seconds, according to a few forums I've read). However, I don't know how to get into this service menu. Thats not what I was told by JVC, but if you think it will fix it give it a try; SERVICE MENU setting a) Press [SLEEP TIMER] key and, while the indication of SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN is being displayed, press [DISPLAY] key and [VIDEO STATUS] key on the remote control unit (Fig.2) simultaneously. b) The SERVICE MENU screen of Fig.1 is displayed. c) Verify what to set in the SERVICE MENU, and set whatever is necessary Be very careful NOT to change any settings if you don't want to create a boat ancor. A great idea just popped in my brain: How's about you tell him what settings NOT to change if he doesn't want to create a boat anchor. Steve Steve Tomaszewski N2PTJ 6 North Hill Dr Ballston Lake, NY 12019 518-877-5528 |
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![]() "Curtis Brown" wrote in message ... "Steve" nowhere.com wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:04:42 GMT, jordo wrote: Steve wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote: Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. It works fine except for the HDMI input. When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() still doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See: http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve Yeah, I've read that. I haven't taken the back off, but I bought it second-hand, so it could have been serviced in the past. However, there is a way to reset the HDMI module from within the service menu (you do a self-check, then turn off the tv from within the menu and unplug for 30 seconds, according to a few forums I've read). However, I don't know how to get into this service menu. Thats not what I was told by JVC, but if you think it will fix it give it a try; SERVICE MENU setting a) Press [SLEEP TIMER] key and, while the indication of SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN is being displayed, press [DISPLAY] key and [VIDEO STATUS] key on the remote control unit (Fig.2) simultaneously. b) The SERVICE MENU screen of Fig.1 is displayed. c) Verify what to set in the SERVICE MENU, and set whatever is necessary Be very careful NOT to change any settings if you don't want to create a boat ancor. A great idea just popped in my brain: How's about you tell him what settings NOT to change if he doesn't want to create a boat anchor. Steve Steve Tomaszewski N2PTJ 6 North Hill Dr Ballston Lake, NY 12019 518-877-5528 A great idea just popped in my brain 2: y don't u stop being such a big fat meanie that nobody likes so somebody can like u u big fat meanie |
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![]() "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:42:20 -0700, Ashleigh Cope wrote: A great idea just popped in my brain 2: y don't u stop being such a big fat meanie that nobody likes so somebody can like u u big fat meanie Why are you replying to your Curtis Brown sock? Have you lost your mind or just bored because nobody else replies except to slap you around? BORING |
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![]() "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 13:01:01 -0700, Stacey Chuffo wrote: "Meat Plow" wrote in message ... On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 20:42:20 -0700, Ashleigh Cope wrote: A great idea just popped in my brain 2: y don't u stop being such a big fat meanie that nobody likes so somebody can like u u big fat meanie Why are you replying to your Curtis Brown sock? Have you lost your mind or just bored because nobody else replies except to slap you around? BORING You've got a real problem needing all these socks to talk to each other. Of course I knew you were ****ing nuts when you bragged about your gigantic 32" tv, your massive pool stick, a 10 dollar bottle of beer and your copy of Windows Vista. What the **** are you smoking? Show me where I bragged about my "gigantic 32" TV", or where I own a pool stick. I wouldn't spend 10 dollars on a bottle of beer and I haven't bragged about Windows Vista, as a matter of fact, I think it sucks. |
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On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 22:04:47 -0400, Steve nowhere.com put finger to
keyboard and composed: Thats not what I was told by JVC, but if you think it will fix it give it a try; SERVICE MENU setting a) Press [SLEEP TIMER] key and, while the indication of SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN is being displayed, press [DISPLAY] key and [VIDEO STATUS] key on the remote control unit (Fig.2) simultaneously. b) The SERVICE MENU screen of Fig.1 is displayed. c) Verify what to set in the SERVICE MENU, and set whatever is necessary Be very careful NOT to change any settings if you don't want to create a boat ancor. Steve Steve Tomaszewski N2PTJ 6 North Hill Dr Ballston Lake, NY 12019 518-877-5528 Do you have a circuit diagram of the HDCP/HDMI module? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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On Jul 27, 10:04*pm, Steve nowhere.com wrote:
On Mon, 28 Jul 2008 01:04:42 GMT, jordo wrote: Steve wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2008 23:29:55 GMT, jordo wrote: Franc Zabkar wrote: On Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:03 GMT, jordo put finger to keyboard and composed: I have a JVC rear projection tv that I bought second hand a little over a year ago. *It works fine except for the HDMI input. *When I plug it into my cable box and switch to the digital input, it can't detect anything (and says it's gonna turn off in 9 minutes if nothing is connected before then ![]() doesn't detect a connection, but the computer recognizes the tv for the model number that it is. To recognise the TV, the computer only needs to be able to read the TV's EDID EEPROM via the DDC pins in the cable (pins 6,7,14,15): *http://pinouts.ru/VideoCables/hdmi_d...e_pinout.shtml I have managed to read a powered-down monitor's EDID EEPROM using my device programmer. I made a VGA DB15-to-DIP8 adapter cable and told the programmer that it was connected to an Atmel AT24C21 serial EEPROM which has a "DDC1/ DDC2 Interface Compliant for Monitor Identification". You can find the EDID in the registry at the following key: *HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Enum\MONITOR If you export that key to a .reg file, you will see the EDID EEPROM data. Analysing the EDID will tell you what scan rates the TV supports. FWIW, if you post your EDID here, I may be able to analyse the data for you. BTW, if you want someone to help you, it would help them if you would indicate the TV's model number. - Franc Zabkar Hi again Franc, I don't have a registry key called Enum under HKLM...I'm using Vista, btw...that probably would've helped, eh? ![]() I hope you are aware that JVC booby-traped the DVI modue in this set to avoid tampering. *If you remove the back without taking precautions say bye to your digital input. See:http://www.iwaynet.net/~nesda/Jan04/Jan0413.html Steve Yeah, I've read that. *I haven't taken the back off, but I bought it second-hand, so it could have been serviced in the past. *However, there is a way to reset the HDMI module from within the service menu (you do a self-check, then turn off the tv from within the menu and unplug for 30 seconds, according to a few forums I've read). *However, I don't know how to get into this service menu. Thats not what I was told by JVC, but if you think it will fix it give it a try; *SERVICE MENU setting a) Press [SLEEP TIMER] key and, while the indication of SLEEP TIMER 0 MIN is being displayed, press [DISPLAY] key and [VIDEO STATUS] key on the remote control unit (Fig.2) simultaneously. b) The SERVICE MENU screen of Fig.1 is displayed. c) Verify what to set in the SERVICE MENU, and set whatever is necessary Be very careful NOT to change any settings if you don't want to create a boat ancor. Steve Steve Tomaszewski *N2PTJ 6 North Hill Dr Ballston Lake, NY 12019 518-877-5528- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - |
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