Roadie dropped it off the stage , in flight case, worked fine for another
gig and then next time worked for 3 seconds.
Sheared metal internal braces and choke looks decidedly drunken, almost
sheared off, but all big lumps test cold ok so far.
Could someone confirm that the 1W resistor R188 on the HT ac input should be
2.2 ohm ? Its not charred or any other indication of excess heating but I
find the colour bands a bit confusing as red,red, gold,gold, white and is
nowhere near 2 ohms now. Bit difficult to tell whether it is gold gold or
silver silver bands until I disconnect the board and can get a better view.
Is it a possible scenario that this R failed mechanically, but only
partially, in the shock loading ? without any undue current loading/heating.
Back-line manager swapped the o/p bottles with another amp and they
functioned ok in the other amp and the speakers are ok.


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For HT read LT

"N_Cook" wrote in message
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Roadie dropped it off the stage , in flight case, worked fine for another
gig and then next time worked for 3 seconds.
Sheared metal internal braces and choke looks decidedly drunken, almost
sheared off, but all big lumps test cold ok so far.
Could someone confirm that the 1W resistor R188 on the HT ac input should
be
2.2 ohm ? Its not charred or any other indication of excess heating but I
find the colour bands a bit confusing as red,red, gold,gold, white and is
nowhere near 2 ohms now. Bit difficult to tell whether it is gold gold or
silver silver bands until I disconnect the board and can get a better
view.
Is it a possible scenario that this R failed mechanically, but only
partially, in the shock loading ? without any undue current
loading/heating.
Back-line manager swapped the o/p bottles with another amp and they
functioned ok in the other amp and the speakers are ok.


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http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/





Phone Korg, 01908 857130 then press the right buttons for Vox. They should
email you a schematic. Doesn't this have a valve rectifier? Did the
backline manager swap this also?






Gareth.

Any suggestions what to look for on scrapping off the coating of what maybe
a mechanically failed one. Where to find the fuising bit to check for
fracture versus fusing ?

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Removed the grey coating and remnant parts of the metalisation/ MO sum to
about 1.5 ohm. The joining section is about 1 x 1 mm with a neat hair-line
crack across it and no sign of any heating there.
So mechanical breakage, I will dig out my microscope and take a photo of it.

Before removing coating, was definitely 2.2 ohm markings with white band
(if) for x16 presumably referring to that 1 x 1 mm section, so x32 violet
banded one would have a something like 0.7 x 0.7mm intercept region and a
green band x8 would have more like 1.4 x 1.4 mm fusing area.

Anyone care to give a reason for shock induced fracture just at that point?

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"N_Cook" wrote in message
...
Removed the grey coating and remnant parts of the metalisation/ MO sum to
about 1.5 ohm. The joining section is about 1 x 1 mm with a neat hair-line
crack across it and no sign of any heating there.
So mechanical breakage, I will dig out my microscope and take a photo of
it.

Before removing coating, was definitely 2.2 ohm markings with white band
(if) for x16 presumably referring to that 1 x 1 mm section, so x32 violet
banded one would have a something like 0.7 x 0.7mm intercept region and a
green band x8 would have more like 1.4 x 1.4 mm fusing area.

Anyone care to give a reason for shock induced fracture just at that
point?




I suspect a Roadie dropped it off the stage.



Gareth.

Gareth Magennis wrote:
"N_Cook" wrote in message
...
Removed the grey coating and remnant parts of the metalisation/ MO sum to
about 1.5 ohm. The joining section is about 1 x 1 mm with a neat hair-line
crack across it and no sign of any heating there.
So mechanical breakage, I will dig out my microscope and take a photo of
it.

Before removing coating, was definitely 2.2 ohm markings with white band
(if) for x16 presumably referring to that 1 x 1 mm section, so x32 violet
banded one would have a something like 0.7 x 0.7mm intercept region and a
green band x8 would have more like 1.4 x 1.4 mm fusing area.

Anyone care to give a reason for shock induced fracture just at that
point?




I suspect a Roadie dropped it off the stage.


Splurt! No no stop... you owe me a keyboard now!


Ron(UK)

Putting my materials testing hat on - it probably suffered torsional
failure.
Wire ended 1W suspended off board, if one end swings one way and the other
end swings the other then perhaps a torsional twist that is enough to part
at the weakest point of the conductive strip.


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Gareth Magennis wrote:
"N_Cook" wrote in message
...
Removed the grey coating and remnant parts of the metalisation/ MO sum to
about 1.5 ohm. The joining section is about 1 x 1 mm with a neat hair-line
crack across it and no sign of any heating there.
So mechanical breakage, I will dig out my microscope and take a photo of
it.

Before removing coating, was definitely 2.2 ohm markings with white band
(if) for x16 presumably referring to that 1 x 1 mm section, so x32 violet
banded one would have a something like 0.7 x 0.7mm intercept region and a
green band x8 would have more like 1.4 x 1.4 mm fusing area.

Anyone care to give a reason for shock induced fracture just at that
point?




I suspect a Roadie dropped it off the stage.

Think that was stated in the OP(?).

jak


Gareth.

"jakdedert" wrote in message
t...
Gareth Magennis wrote:
"N_Cook" wrote in message
...
Removed the grey coating and remnant parts of the metalisation/ MO sum
to
about 1.5 ohm. The joining section is about 1 x 1 mm with a neat
hair-line
crack across it and no sign of any heating there.
So mechanical breakage, I will dig out my microscope and take a photo of
it.

Before removing coating, was definitely 2.2 ohm markings with white band
(if) for x16 presumably referring to that 1 x 1 mm section, so x32
violet
banded one would have a something like 0.7 x 0.7mm intercept region and
a
green band x8 would have more like 1.4 x 1.4 mm fusing area.

Anyone care to give a reason for shock induced fracture just at that
point?




I suspect a Roadie dropped it off the stage.

Think that was stated in the OP(?).



Well there's irony for you.



Gareth.

http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/crack.jpg
Is a microscope view of the crack. Now viewing magnified it can now be seen
the fault developement.
The just left of centre part of the crack must be part of a crack that
formed initially but enough current flowed in the other parts making
touching contact until there was too much localised fusing.
1 to 1 marks the 1mm or so of conductor between the 2 straight line
etching/millings ? into the conductor to form part spiral paths.
The C marks the end of one of these formed breaks and there is another one
on the other track , off the top left of the image, giving about 1 x 1mm
central fusible conductor.
Nowhere on the remaining conductor is there any discolouration due to
overheating



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