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What voltage is this cap?
Axial electrolytic
approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink tubing with the above alphanumeric markings. This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- John English |
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What voltage is this cap?
John E. wrote in
obal.net: Axial electrolytic approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink tubing with the above alphanumeric markings. This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, That's a damn small capacitance for that size, though I agree with it, so it implies a high voltage to match what you say. I first thought of 123 as meaning 12,000 millivolts, after the convention of 104 for capacitance, but I never heard of anyone actually doing it this way, and it's definitely not 12V. Is the writing clear? Any chance that 123 is actually something else? |
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What voltage is this cap?
"John E." wrote in message
obal.net... Axial electrolytic approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink tubing with the above alphanumeric markings. This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, -- John English It would have to withstand at least 240*1.41 =340V. I would suggest that it would be a minimum of 400V and possibly 500V. -- Don Kelly remove the X to answer ---------------------------- |
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What voltage is this cap?
John E. wrote:
Axial electrolytic approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink tubing with the above alphanumeric markings. This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller). Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ..1 uf 1200 volt cap ! makes since to me.. most likely a snubber or bypass cap of some kind. -- "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy" "Daily Thought: SOME PEOPLE ARE LIKE SLINKIES. NOT REALLY GOOD FOR ANYTHING BUT THEY BRING A SMILE TO YOUR FACE WHEN PUSHED DOWN THE STAIRS. http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5" |
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What voltage is this cap?
"John E." Axial electrolytic ... ** I bet it is NOT !!! It has no polarity markings - right ? Both ends look the same - right ? Then it is an oil filled paper/film type. " 2J104K " = 0.1uF, 10 % tolerance and probably the 200 volt DC rated. ........ Phil |
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In article aW6pj.39189$ow.36625@pd7urf1no,
Don Kelly wrote: It would have to withstand at least 240*1.41 =340V. I would suggest that it would be a minimum of 400V and possibly 500V. In the UK where 240V is the norm, 400V would be the normal rating for a motor start/run cap -- Stuart Winsor From is valid but subject to change without notice if it gets spammed. For Barn dances and folk evenings in the Coventry and Warwickshire area See: http://www.barndance.org.uk |
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"John E." wrote in message obal.net... Axial electrolytic approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Take a look he http://highfields-arc.6te.net/constructors/capacit.htm it may help. -- People. You can't live with 'em and it's illegal to hunt them...except in Texas. Highfields Amateur Radio Club: http://highfields-arc.co.uk |
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On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 00:51:01 +0000 (GMT), Stuart
put finger to keyboard and composed: In article aW6pj.39189$ow.36625@pd7urf1no, Don Kelly wrote: It would have to withstand at least 240*1.41 =340V. I would suggest that it would be a minimum of 400V and possibly 500V. In the UK where 240V is the norm, 400V would be the normal rating for a motor start/run cap 0.1uF seems much too small for a motor start/run cap. In any case, don't these caps have an AC rating rather than a DC rating? - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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What voltage is this cap?
In article .net,
says... Axial electrolytic approx 0.5 inch (12 mm) diam, 1.0 inch (25 mm) length Markings: HGC CP-C 2J104K 123 Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? There are no manufacturer markings (logo, etc.), just plain gray shrink tubing with the above alphanumeric markings. This is used in a single-phase 240VAC low current box fan speed controller (1 TRIAC is the main current controller). Looking at manufacturer sites, 2J is a common voltage marking for 630V. -- If there is a no_junk in my address, please REMOVE it before replying! All junk mail senders will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law!! http://home.att.net/~andyross |
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What voltage is this cap?
Andrew Rossmann wrote: 2J is a common voltage marking for 630V. Interesting ! Any more handy tips like that ? It's a new one on me for sure. Graham |
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What voltage is this cap?
On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:11:14 -0800, John E.
wrote: Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? 630VDC 0.1uF 1H = 50VDC 1J = 63VDC 2A =100VDC 2D = 200VDC 2E = 250VDC 2G = 400VDC 2J = 630VDC 3A = 1,000VDC 3B = 1250VDC 3C = 1600VDC 3D = 2,000VDC 3E = 2,500VDC 01 = 190VAC 02 = 250VAC 03 = 275VAC 04 = 300VAC 05 = 400VAC 06 = 440VAC 07 = 500VAC 08 = 600VAC -- Peter Parry |
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What voltage is this cap?
On Sun, 03 Feb 2008 16:52:56 +0000, Peter Parry put
finger to keyboard and composed: On Sat, 2 Feb 2008 14:11:14 -0800, John E. wrote: Google tells me it's a 0.1uF, but I can't find a reference for the "2J" voltage rating. And, any idea what the other markings are? 630VDC 0.1uF 1H = 50VDC 1J = 63VDC 2A =100VDC 2B = 125VDC 2C = 160VDC 2D = 200VDC 2E = 250VDC 2F = 315VDC 2G = 400VDC 2H = 500VDC 2J = 630VDC 3A = 1,000VDC 3B = 1250VDC 3C = 1600VDC 3D = 2,000VDC 3E = 2,500VDC 01 = 190VAC 02 = 250VAC 03 = 275VAC 04 = 300VAC 05 = 400VAC 06 = 440VAC 07 = 500VAC 08 = 600VAC The numbering doesn't always appear to be consistent: http://www.taitsu.co.jp/media/english/epdf/pmsva_e.pdf 2F = 315VDC 5B = 125VAC 5E = 250VAC http://www.kjcap.com/disc.asp 3F = 3KV DC 3G = 4KV DC 3H = 5KV DC 3I = 6KV DC BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH". :-) - Franc Zabkar -- Please remove one 'i' from my address when replying by email. |
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What voltage is this cap?
Franc Zabkar wrote in
: BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH". :-) Poot length? Mine tend to be of the order of 400 milliseconds. |
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What voltage is this cap?
Sounds a lot more like a tubular polypropylene/film/wax or similar
capacitor than an electrolytic. Some of the better quality units (safety ratings? Danger, Will Robinson, safety ratings! Especially in a snubber on the AC line!) are in metal cans. Tim. So, how does one decisively determine the type? There are no markings whatsoever other than the ones described. The plastic insulation (shrink) covers all but the inner diameter of the ends. The leads are connected to the (aluminum) end caps which are identical. -- John English |
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What voltage is this cap?
How about posting a link to a photo of the capacitor?
Glenn. http://www.filesend.net/download.php?f=37f2909fe914b627f0b34734d478fb48 -- John English |
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What voltage is this cap?
Given the application, it must be part of some snubber and safety-
rated film caps would certainly be used in such a case. Can you be more specific as to the type? Maybe a reference to a Mouser or Digi-Key item? Thanks, -- John English |
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What voltage is this cap?
EPCOS B32232 series is an example of a film cap in a metal axial can:
http://www.epcos.com/inf/20/20/db/fc_05/MKT_B32232.pdf Digikey part number 495-3542-ND seems to match your component superficially at least. You will find a lot of film caps with pulse handling capability specifically called out these days. Especially used in switching power supplies and electronic ballasts at line voltage. Tim. Thanks so much for your assistance. Invaluable to one whose knowledge in this area is so... basic. -- John English |
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In article ,
"Phil Allison" wrote: Axial electrolytic ... ** I bet it is NOT !!! It has no polarity markings - right ? Both ends look the same - right ? The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of non-polarized electrolytics... |
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On Tue, 05 Feb 2008 19:08:52 -0800, Smitty Two wrote:
:In article , : "Phil Allison" wrote: : : Axial electrolytic ... : : ** I bet it is NOT !!! : : It has no polarity markings - right ? : : Both ends look the same - right ? : :The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of non-polarized :electrolytics... Not possible to be a non-polar electrolytic because these don't usually go above 50Vdc and they are never marked with a voltage code such as 2J. It is most likely a film type with voltage a bit higher than Phil's guess. My own guess would have been 400V but since then we have more info on voltage codes and 630V looks to be the answer. |
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What voltage is this cap?
"Franc Zabkar" wrote in message ... BTW, does anyone know what is meant by "POOT SIZE" and "POOT IEGTH". :-) My poot length is 10", at least that's what I tell the ladies. |
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