A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.

UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.

I like good old-fashioned BELLS! Any of us over 45 have been
conditioned to wake to them, from childhood. There used to be some on
the market...plug in mechanical bell ringers with at least a couple of
volume settings. They can be further adjusted or damped mechanically if
needed.

jak

"jakdedert" wrote in message
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UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.

I like good old-fashioned BELLS! Any of us over 45 have been conditioned
to wake to them, from childhood. There used to be some on the
market...plug in mechanical bell ringers with at least a couple of volume
settings. They can be further adjusted or damped mechanically if needed.

jak

I know he wanted to steer clear of Radio Shack, but they had a bell system
for a "phone" - which was very loud. We installed one in an Ambulance Garage
once - when all we had was "just" the phone which was sometimes hard to hear
when the garage doors were open and lots of road traffic. That "bell" solved
the issue. Oh and it was also to wake up the dispatcher - if they dozed
off - when the phone rang. Maybe "that" bell - if they still sell them -
could be adopted for this purpose?

wrote in message ...
A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

The obvious (and simplest) answer is for her to keep her alert
button in a place that's readily accessible but where she can't
press it accidentally while she sleeps. Attached to the front or
side of a nightstand might be one suggestion.

On Jan 5, 7:07*pm, wrote:
wrote in ...
A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

The obvious (and simplest) answer is for her to keep her alert
button in a place that's readily accessible but where she can't
press it accidentally while she sleeps. *Attached to the front or
side of a nightstand might be one suggestion.- Hide quoted text -

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The bright light combined with a loud ringer should cover all bets.
The Radio Shack stuff is fine.

"UCLAN" wrote in message
...
wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.

My Dad fixed up something for our neighbor. Her house had hardwood floors.
He took an old doorbell and removed the bell. He drove a large nail in the
floor and positioned the bell so the clapper would strike the nail. The
vibration could be felt anywhere in the house

Al

Big Al wrote:

My Dad fixed up something for our neighbor. Her house had hardwood floors.
He took an old doorbell and removed the bell. He drove a large nail in the
floor and positioned the bell so the clapper would strike the nail. The
vibration could be felt anywhere in the house

Al


What a great idea! While I don't think it would necessarily wake an
elderly person up, I can think of a number of other
applications...signaling the deaf, for example.

jak

radiosrfun wrote:
"jakdedert" wrote in message
. ..
UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .
Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.
I like good old-fashioned BELLS! Any of us over 45 have been conditioned
to wake to them, from childhood. There used to be some on the
market...plug in mechanical bell ringers with at least a couple of volume
settings. They can be further adjusted or damped mechanically if needed.

jak

I know he wanted to steer clear of Radio Shack, but they had a bell system
for a "phone" - which was very loud. We installed one in an Ambulance Garage
once - when all we had was "just" the phone which was sometimes hard to hear
when the garage doors were open and lots of road traffic. That "bell" solved
the issue. Oh and it was also to wake up the dispatcher - if they dozed
off - when the phone rang. Maybe "that" bell - if they still sell them -
could be adopted for this purpose?

Actually, I had the Radio Shack unit in mind...I have one. They also
have the light flasher interface. IMO, a combination of devices is the
best solution; but I think having a real bell in the system is important.

Some cheap phones from the 80's--before electronic 'ringers' became
universal--had real bells...with the circuitry on a discrete board that
could be pulled and installed in an alternate enclosure.

I've bought a few of those from thrift stores for a buck or two and done
so. They could be made a little smaller than the Rat Shack ringers.

jak

On Jan 6, 4:08*am, jakdedert wrote:
radiosrfun wrote:
"jakdedert" wrote in message
...
UCLAN wrote:
wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .
Better yet, hook up some bright light bulbs instead of loud ringers.
See how much light flashing is required to wake her up, and use the
next brighter bulb. Or perhaps a vibration device under her pillow.
I like good old-fashioned BELLS! *Any of us over 45 have been conditioned
to wake to them, from childhood. *There used to be some on the
market...plug in mechanical bell ringers with at least a couple of volume
settings. *They can be further adjusted or damped mechanically if needed.

jak

I know he wanted to steer clear of Radio Shack, but they had a bell system
for a "phone" - which was very loud. We installed one in an Ambulance Garage
once - when all we had was "just" the phone which was sometimes hard to hear
when the garage doors were open and lots of road traffic. That "bell" solved
the issue. Oh and it was also to wake up the dispatcher - if they dozed
off - when the phone rang. Maybe "that" bell - if they still sell them -
could be adopted for this purpose?

Actually, I had the Radio Shack unit in mind...I have one. *They also
have the light flasher interface. *IMO, a combination of devices is the
best solution; but I think having a real bell in the system is important.

Some cheap phones from the 80's--before electronic 'ringers' became
universal--had real bells...with the circuitry on a discrete board that
could be pulled and installed in an alternate enclosure.

I've bought a few of those from thrift stores for a buck or two and done
so. *They could be made a little smaller than the Rat Shack ringers.

jak- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

I had forgotten about the loud bells that Radio Shack used to sell. If
they no longer sell them I'm sure someone must have them. I remember
they were designed for outdoor use. I once hooked up one with a common
audible in a used car lot. You could hear it two blocks away. The
bells are on an eccentric so you can adjust their position and hence
their loudness relative to the hammer. I've got some really good
suggestions here. Thanks for all the ideas. Lenny.

If your client has a bed with a headboard, especially one with a thin
plywood back to it, a buzzer or bell screwed to the middle of it (behind the
backboard) will create quite a loud (and raw/dirty) noise. The back acts
like a sounding board. If the vibration and noise doesn't work, nothing
will.

I had the same problem with my MIL. They do look surprised when they wake up
with a room full of rescue or police reople.


wrote in message
...
A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

How about flashing strobes? They will wake one up quite quickly, and you
could locate a couple around the rest of the house too.

- Tim -



In article U%bgj.809$xA6.495@trndny09, says...
If your client has a bed with a headboard, especially one with a thin
plywood back to it, a buzzer or bell screwed to the middle of it (behind the
backboard) will create quite a loud (and raw/dirty) noise. The back acts
like a sounding board. If the vibration and noise doesn't work, nothing
will.

I had the same problem with my MIL. They do look surprised when they wake up
with a room full of rescue or police reople.


wrote in message
...
A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .

" wrote:

A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
to. She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
soon as possible. Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
Electronics. .


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On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 07:52:25 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

:A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
:hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
:night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
:asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
:untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
:in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
:that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
:for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
:will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
:be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
:a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
:but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
:available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
:rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
:to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
:soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
:Electronics. .


Don't know what is available where you are but here we have a good range of
electronic telephone ringer/alarms for domestic or industrial use.
http://hytel.com.au/Catalogcurrent/alarms.htm

The unit most likely to suit your client would be the Tone Ringer
http://hytel.com.au/Products/K3507.htm

You may find something more available here
http://www.abledata.com/abledata.cfm...trail=22,13436

In article , wrote:
On Sat, 5 Jan 2008 07:52:25 -0800 (PST), "
wrote:

:A customer of mine is 91 years old, lives alone and is hard of
:hearing. She uses hearing aids but removes them at night. The other
:night she accidently pressed her wireless medical alert button while
:asleep and could'nt hear the rescue personnel pounding on her door
:untill they broke it down. She was very scared to find all these men
:in her house and could actually have succummed to a heart attack at
:that point. I would like to set up loud ringers throughout the house
:for her that have adjustable outputs that I could pre set so that she
:will be able to hear them but not be so scared by them that they would
:be counter productive. These should operate at a lower frequency than
:a normal electronic telephone does sort of like a fire alarm sounder
:but obviously not that loud. Are there any good commercial devices
:available that anyone knows of that would accomplish this? I would
:rather not screw around with Radio Shlock stuff if I don't have
:to .She's pretty shook up and I would like to try to set this up as
:soon as possible.Thanks for any assistance. Lenny Stein, Barlen
:Electronics. .


Don't know what is available where you are but here we have a good range of
electronic telephone ringer/alarms for domestic or industrial use.
http://hytel.com.au/Catalogcurrent/alarms.htm

The unit most likely to suit your client would be the Tone Ringer
http://hytel.com.au/Products/K3507.htm

You may find something more available here
http://www.abledata.com/abledata.cfm...trail=22,13436

I bought two radio shack telephone flashers. I will hook them up eventually. All
warning devices around building have both flash and sound. I would definately install flashers
in addition to sounders.

greg

Strobe lights sound good.Otherwise, use some bright LED lights.They last
much longer than incandescent lights.You might also check out some old
fashioned battery powered bicycle horns or car/truck horns.The old
bicycle horns have an adjustment screw on the back of them to adjust the
loudness.
cuhulin