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Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower
is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? I noticed that the pinouts for the chip following the dual FET (U1290), are incorrect. Doing a diode test on the chip, there are several pins mislabeled. The external circuitry seems to go to the pins as shown on the schematic, but the internal circuitry ohms out to different pins. This would only be an issue if you ohm out the chip like I did to see if the chip was bad. If anyone is interested, I can post what seems to be the correct internal circuitry. bg |
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Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". I noticed that the pinouts for the chip following the dual FET (U1290), are incorrect. Doing a diode test on the chip, there are several pins mislabeled. The external circuitry seems to go to the pins as shown on the schematic, but the internal circuitry ohms out to different pins. This would only be an issue if you ohm out the chip like I did to see if the chip was bad. If anyone is interested, I can post what seems to be the correct internal circuitry. bg the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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![]() Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". I noticed that the pinouts for the chip following the dual FET (U1290), are incorrect. Doing a diode test on the chip, there are several pins mislabeled. The external circuitry seems to go to the pins as shown on the schematic, but the internal circuitry ohms out to different pins. This would only be an issue if you ohm out the chip like I did to see if the chip was bad. If anyone is interested, I can post what seems to be the correct internal circuitry. bg the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Thanks Jim. I had already been to that site and didn't see it the first time, even with my glasses on! Offset is the issue I am having. bg |
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Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Thanks Jim. I had already been to that site and didn't see it the first time, even with my glasses on! Offset is the issue I am having. bg I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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![]() Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Thanks Jim. I had already been to that site and didn't see it the first time, even with my glasses on! Offset is the issue I am having. bg I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net I replaced the channel 1 connector, but plugged in one of the power connectors backwards. So I blew one of the dual fets and the other one seems to have a leakage problem. There is DC on the gate lead right after the attenuator. The 1 meg resistor in the attenuator output isn't low enough to pull the gate to 0 volts. Out of the circuit I can't measure anything abnormal with the FET but in circuit the DC is there. BTW , you are a great weath of info for these tek products. bg |
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Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Thanks Jim. I had already been to that site and didn't see it the first time, even with my glasses on! Offset is the issue I am having. bg I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net I replaced the channel 1 connector, but plugged in one of the power connectors backwards. So I blew one of the dual fets and the other one seems to have a leakage problem. There is DC on the gate lead right after the attenuator. The 1 meg resistor in the attenuator output isn't low enough to pull the gate to 0 volts. Out of the circuit I can't measure anything abnormal with the FET but in circuit the DC is there. BTW , you are a great weath of info for these tek products. bg are there input protection diodes on that FET input? did you disconnect the atten PCB and still have the DC? (and then GND the gate and the offset goes away?) -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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![]() Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Jim Yanik wrote in message ... "bg" wrote in : Both channels on the verticle front end are damaged. One dual FET follower is a definite (Q1297). It is tek part number 151-1090-00. I haven't seen one yet using google. Is there a replacement or two discretes out there that will work? They would have to be matched,else you get an offset. check this out; http://www.sphere.bc.ca/test/tek-parts/tekparts2.html it appears they have some 151-1090's for sale. they also cross ref to a "2N5911 family". the 155-0078-xx is used in a lot of different scopes,several 7000 series plug-ins,too. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net Thanks Jim. I had already been to that site and didn't see it the first time, even with my glasses on! Offset is the issue I am having. bg I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net I replaced the ch1 connector, but connected a power connector backwards. It blew one of the dual FETS and the other seems to have a leakage problem. There is DC on the gate where the attenuator output connects. The one meg resistor in the attenuator output is not low enough to pull the gate to zero. Out of the circuit, I don't see anything wrong with the fet. BTW , you are a great resource for these tek products, thanks. |
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![]() I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". Now that's certainly not something I'd have expected. I'll keep it in mind should my 465 ever misbehave in that way. |
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"James Sweet" wrote in
news:A_PYi.24184$Cb.6275@trnddc08: I've seen the input BNC connector cause DC offsets! seems it absorbs contaminants and becomes a weak "battery". Now that's certainly not something I'd have expected. I'll keep it in mind should my 465 ever misbehave in that way. definitely a weird one. only had a couple of those,as I recall. -- Jim Yanik jyanik at kua.net |
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