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I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst
the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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![]() wrote in message oups.com... I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Hi Peter. Such items are certainly available. I bought one here recently when I was flinging together a bias checking box for Fender amps. It is used to set the tube balance. I got mine from Farnell www.farnell.com under part number 143510. I'm sure such an item must be available from similar suppliers in the US, but if you get really stuck, Farnell do export, but whether there is a minimum order or whether the shipping would be worth it, I don't know. Arfa |
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On Mar 27, 3:55 am, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Hi Peter. Such items are certainly available. I bought one here recently when I was flinging together a bias checking box for Fender amps. It is used to set the tube balance. I got mine from Farnell www.farnell.com under part number 143510. I'm sure such an item must be available from similar suppliers in the US, but if you get really stuck, Farnell do export, but whether there is a minimum order or whether the shipping would be worth it, I don't know. Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Many thanks! I can adapt an ammeter to this use, so if all else fails, that is what I will do. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 27, 3:55 am, "Arfa Daily" wrote: wrote in message oups.com... I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Hi Peter. Such items are certainly available. I bought one here recently when I was flinging together a bias checking box for Fender amps. It is used to set the tube balance. I got mine from Farnell www.farnell.com under part number 143510. I'm sure such an item must be available from similar suppliers in the US, but if you get really stuck, Farnell do export, but whether there is a minimum order or whether the shipping would be worth it, I don't know. Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Many thanks! I can adapt an ammeter to this use, so if all else fails, that is what I will do. Yes indeed. All moving coil meters are in fact ammeters. Whether they read amps or volts is purely down to how you shunt or series them with resistance. For the meter that I pointed you to, a series R of about 8k2 would be needed to make it read + / - 1V Arfa |
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On Mar 27, 8:19 pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote:
wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 27, 3:55 am, "Arfa Daily" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Hi Peter. Such items are certainly available. I bought one here recently when I was flinging together a bias checking box for Fender amps. It is used to set the tube balance. I got mine from Farnell www.farnell.com under part number 143510. I'm sure such an item must be available from similar suppliers in the US, but if you get really stuck, Farnell do export, but whether there is a minimum order or whether the shipping would be worth it, I don't know. Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Many thanks! I can adapt an ammeter to this use, so if all else fails, that is what I will do. Yes indeed. All moving coil meters are in fact ammeters. Whether they read amps or volts is purely down to how you shunt or series them with resistance. For the meter that I pointed you to, a series R of about 8k2 would be needed to make it read + / - 1V Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Found the almost the same meter on this side of the pond. $10 w/ shipping. Slightly smaller (a good thing), same ratings. It helped to know what to call it. When it arrives, I will test several resistor values so as to make it function correctly under various actual use conditions. the +/- voltage was as read by my Fluke with two damp fingers on the antenna lead. So, with a real antenna connected, readings may be different. Thanks again for the tip. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA |
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![]() wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 27, 8:19 pm, "Arfa Daily" wrote: wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 27, 3:55 am, "Arfa Daily" wrote: wrote in message groups.com... I have a very-early run AR Receiver, from the serial number amongst the first 100 made (model W before being called the Model R), or so. In any case, the center-tuned meter has crapped out... or better it should be described as mangled during a previous repair attempt. I have done all the other necessary repairs (to suggest that this unit was "previously enjoyed" is only a modest understatement) but now I want to replace the meter. It appears to operate from approximately -1V - +1V. Off-station is 0V.The visible dimension is just under 1/2" by just under 1". The entire meter is just over 1" square.I use approximations as the mask can be made larger or smaller, and there is some room "in back" for a slightly larger meter in all dimensions. The meter has no internal lighting and the back-lit device is intact. The receiver has a Gorler (as opposed to Waller) front-end if that makes any difference. Where would I find such a beast? AR themselves used a few slightly different meters over the years, all being Center-Tuned. Is there a supplier to the aftermarket? This is the first time I have ever had a bad meter on one of these. Thanks in advance, Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Hi Peter. Such items are certainly available. I bought one here recently when I was flinging together a bias checking box for Fender amps. It is used to set the tube balance. I got mine from Farnell www.farnell.com under part number 143510. I'm sure such an item must be available from similar suppliers in the US, but if you get really stuck, Farnell do export, but whether there is a minimum order or whether the shipping would be worth it, I don't know. Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Many thanks! I can adapt an ammeter to this use, so if all else fails, that is what I will do. Yes indeed. All moving coil meters are in fact ammeters. Whether they read amps or volts is purely down to how you shunt or series them with resistance. For the meter that I pointed you to, a series R of about 8k2 would be needed to make it read + / - 1V Arfa- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Found the almost the same meter on this side of the pond. $10 w/ shipping. Slightly smaller (a good thing), same ratings. It helped to know what to call it. When it arrives, I will test several resistor values so as to make it function correctly under various actual use conditions. the +/- voltage was as read by my Fluke with two damp fingers on the antenna lead. So, with a real antenna connected, readings may be different. Thanks again for the tip. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA You're very welcome. Glad you found an equivalent, and hope it works out OK. You could always fit a preset pot of say 20k, wired as a variable resistor, (one end shorted to the wiper) in series with the meter. That way, you can set a full scale reading that suits that particular meter, in that particular application. Arfa |
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