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On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:11:09 GMT, Robert Baer
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Here is a good "trick" to measure low currents with your DVM.
Make a switchable shunt box with (at least) the following full
scale ranges: 200nA (shunt resistor 1.11 megs), 2uA (shunt resistor
101K), 20uA (shunt resistor 10.0K), 200uA (shunt resistor 1.00K).
Put a twisted pair of leads (red, black) with banana plugs (red,
black) running out of the box via a small grommet, to plug into your
DVM set to the 200mV scale; a pair of (red, black) banana jacks with
0.75 "spacing is mounted on the box for your test leads.
Hint: add to the legend the parallel resistance of the system
(200nA/1M, 2uA/100K, etc) as a reminder of the resistance of this
current meter scheme.
Added hint: the 200MV scale is good for 20nA full scale, just
remember the meter resistance is 10 megs.



Tell us, oh master... what does placing a 1,1 meg resistor in
series with a circuit's power source do to the voltage presented to
the circuit?


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ohms+law

It drops it like any other shunt would. If you were designing precision
equipment, would you attempt to measure nA by using a .01Ohm resistor? Read
Ed's post, he is right about being able to measure low currents that way,
just as Robert is here. They just don't work if the current is varying over
a wide range. But for static current measurements, THEY WILL WORK FINE.

Shunt resistors are typically less than an ohm. Show me where
ANYONE uses a 1.1 meg resistor os a current shunt.


You've got to be kidding! Don't you design/build HV supplies? Tell me that
your feedback circuits sense the full output voltage. HA HA HA I guess
you don't use any micros, huh? Or do you just use a 100Ohm and .01Ohm
resistive divider to sense that 50KV output? I'd really like to see that.


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It drops it like any other shunt would.



Sub one ohm shunts affect the circuit very little. A ****ing 1.1
meg resistor is NEVER used as a shunt resistor, and would drastically
affect ANY circuit.

How can you be so thick?
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It drops it like any other shunt would.



Sub one ohm shunts affect the circuit very little. A ****ing 1.1
meg resistor is NEVER used as a shunt resistor, and would drastically
affect ANY circuit.

How can you be so thick?


No understanding of Ohms law wrt low currents.


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MassiveProng wrote:
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It drops it like any other shunt would.



Sub one ohm shunts affect the circuit very little. A ****ing 1.1
meg resistor is NEVER used as a shunt resistor, and would drastically
affect ANY circuit.

How can you be so thick?


No understanding of Ohms law wrt low currents.



Well, then you should study more.
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Tell me that
your feedback circuits sense the full output voltage.



Voltage dividers are completely different than current shunts, you
retarded ****.


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Tell me that
your feedback circuits sense the full output voltage.



Voltage dividers are completely different than current shunts, you
retarded ****.


No understanding of Ohms law. (now I see where Phil gets this from ;0)


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MassiveProng wrote:
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Tell me that
your feedback circuits sense the full output voltage.



Voltage dividers are completely different than current shunts, you
retarded ****.


No understanding of Ohms law. (now I see where Phil gets this from ;0)

Then you should study more, dip****.
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HA HA HA I guess
you don't use any micros, huh? Or do you just use a 100Ohm and .01Ohm
resistive divider to sense that 50KV output? I'd really like to see that.



You're a goddamned retard. This is about current shunts, not
voltage feedback dividers, you stupid twit!

You should go get with BAH. You are showing us that you are at her
speed.
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MassiveProng wrote:
On Sun, 04 Mar 2007 10:11:09 GMT, Robert Baer
Gave us:

Here is a good "trick" to measure low currents with your DVM.
Make a switchable shunt box with (at least) the following full
scale ranges: 200nA (shunt resistor 1.11 megs), 2uA (shunt resistor
101K), 20uA (shunt resistor 10.0K), 200uA (shunt resistor 1.00K).
Put a twisted pair of leads (red, black) with banana plugs (red,
black) running out of the box via a small grommet, to plug into your
DVM set to the 200mV scale; a pair of (red, black) banana jacks with
0.75 "spacing is mounted on the box for your test leads.
Hint: add to the legend the parallel resistance of the system
(200nA/1M, 2uA/100K, etc) as a reminder of the resistance of this
current meter scheme.
Added hint: the 200MV scale is good for 20nA full scale, just
remember the meter resistance is 10 megs.



Tell us, oh master... what does placing a 1,1 meg resistor in
series with a circuit's power source do to the voltage presented to
the circuit?


http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ohms+law

It drops it like any other shunt would.


all current measuring devices add resistance to the circuit,affecting it.
Just like any DMM parallels its input resistance with what it's put
across,loading the circuit under test.

If you were designing
precision equipment, would you attempt to measure nA by using a .01Ohm
resistor? Read Ed's post, he is right about being able to measure low
currents that way, just as Robert is here. They just don't work if
the current is varying over a wide range. But for static current
measurements, THEY WILL WORK FINE.

Shunt resistors are typically less than an ohm. Show me where
ANYONE uses a 1.1 meg resistor os a current shunt.


(you use the 1.1 shunt value externally because the DMMs 10 Meg parallel
resistance brings the effective R down to 1.0.)




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