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Hello, i have the Sony KP-46V15, must be at least 10yr old now.....anywho,
it will power on via remote or front panel, you'll hear the normal 'click' and 'electric surge' sound as always, plus the bit of 'static' sound as set energizes...but there is no longer any picture or sound on any input, just the green input label which seems to jitter a bit. This happened once a long time ago and simply turning set off and unplug/plug ac cured it....it happened again just the other day and i did the same thing and it worked. Now it's done it again, but this time it appears to not want to come back regardless of what i do. Any idea what this may be for a failure? This set has been relegated to the master bedroom so it has only seen occasional use lately, but has been used heavily for 75% of it's life. I'm betting this will not really be worth it to fix, can anyone talk me out of hauling 'er to the recyclers? Thx for any info. |
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There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing
inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. |
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On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:46:39 -0700, dkuhajda wrote:
There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. thx for taking the time......i guess that's one way to look at it, i suppose what was leaning me to the 'dump' side was that if i repair it, it is essntially at it's design life and i'm still putting money into a 10+ year old set that may fail again....however, i guess it could continue running too. I did have a couple covergence ic's replaced a few year ago so this would be the 2nd repair.. ...the picture did look quite good still before this behavior.....except for an intermittent 'faint flashing' of 'faint white' (very hard to describe) & happened very intermittently ...(i wonder if the two are related?)....hauling it off to repair center won't work i'd have to eat the srvice call chg......hmmm......btw, would there be any indication of a fault in service menu?...or is there a way to do some sort of 'reset' that could 'rearm' some sort of protection circuit that went off? Thx again. |
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If there is a stored fault codex the service menu access will allow the
technician to retrieve and interpret it, or the leds on the front panel will flash a sequence, 1 through 8 depending on the failure. Can you retrieve the on screen menu, showing video, setup, audio, etc?? Does it also bounce?? At least leave the tech have a go at the thing. "MrAndy" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:46:39 -0700, dkuhajda wrote: There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. thx for taking the time......i guess that's one way to look at it, i suppose what was leaning me to the 'dump' side was that if i repair it, it is essntially at it's design life and i'm still putting money into a 10+ year old set that may fail again....however, i guess it could continue running too. I did have a couple covergence ic's replaced a few year ago so this would be the 2nd repair.. ..the picture did look quite good still before this behavior.....except for an intermittent 'faint flashing' of 'faint white' (very hard to describe) & happened very intermittently ...(i wonder if the two are related?)....hauling it off to repair center won't work i'd have to eat the srvice call chg......hmmm......btw, would there be any indication of a fault in service menu?...or is there a way to do some sort of 'reset' that could 'rearm' some sort of protection circuit that went off? Thx again. |
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Could be just a loose solder connection, easy fix.(shouldn`t take a repair
man more than 15 or 20 minutes to fix) if not, you should try yardsales, or moving sale, at a moving sale I picked up a 27 inch color TV with remote, works perfect for $30. "Art" wrote in message ... If there is a stored fault codex the service menu access will allow the technician to retrieve and interpret it, or the leds on the front panel will flash a sequence, 1 through 8 depending on the failure. Can you retrieve the on screen menu, showing video, setup, audio, etc?? Does it also bounce?? At least leave the tech have a go at the thing. "MrAndy" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:46:39 -0700, dkuhajda wrote: There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. thx for taking the time......i guess that's one way to look at it, i suppose what was leaning me to the 'dump' side was that if i repair it, it is essntially at it's design life and i'm still putting money into a 10+ year old set that may fail again....however, i guess it could continue running too. I did have a couple covergence ic's replaced a few year ago so this would be the 2nd repair.. ..the picture did look quite good still before this behavior.....except for an intermittent 'faint flashing' of 'faint white' (very hard to describe) & happened very intermittently ...(i wonder if the two are related?)....hauling it off to repair center won't work i'd have to eat the srvice call chg......hmmm......btw, would there be any indication of a fault in service menu?...or is there a way to do some sort of 'reset' that could 'rearm' some sort of protection circuit that went off? Thx again. |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 09:13:09 -0400, Billy wrote:
Could be just a loose solder connection, easy fix.(shouldn`t take a repair man more than 15 or 20 minutes to fix) if not, you should try yardsales, or moving sale, at a moving sale I picked up a 27 inch color TV with remote, works perfect for $30. "Art" wrote in message ... If there is a stored fault codex the service menu access will allow the technician to retrieve and interpret it, or the leds on the front panel will flash a sequence, 1 through 8 depending on the failure. Can you retrieve the on screen menu, showing video, setup, audio, etc?? Does it also bounce?? At least leave the tech have a go at the thing. "MrAndy" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:46:39 -0700, dkuhajda wrote: There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. thx for taking the time......i guess that's one way to look at it, i suppose what was leaning me to the 'dump' side was that if i repair it, it is essntially at it's design life and i'm still putting money into a 10+ year old set that may fail again....however, i guess it could continue running too. I did have a couple covergence ic's replaced a few year ago so this would be the 2nd repair.. ..the picture did look quite good still before this behavior.....except for an intermittent 'faint flashing' of 'faint white' (very hard to describe) & happened very intermittently ...(i wonder if the two are related?)....hauling it off to repair center won't work i'd have to eat the srvice call chg......hmmm......btw, would there be any indication of a fault in service menu?...or is there a way to do some sort of 'reset' that could 'rearm' some sort of protection circuit that went off? Thx again. Art, yeah the user menu comes up as well, it bounces a li'l bit like the input label.......the red light blinks i think 5 times when i power it up .....i think this is what it always did, maybe i'm wrong...... |
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On Sun, 01 May 2005 09:13:09 -0400, Billy wrote:
Could be just a loose solder connection, easy fix.(shouldn`t take a repair man more than 15 or 20 minutes to fix) if not, you should try yardsales, or moving sale, at a moving sale I picked up a 27 inch color TV with remote, works perfect for $30. "Art" wrote in message ... If there is a stored fault codex the service menu access will allow the technician to retrieve and interpret it, or the leds on the front panel will flash a sequence, 1 through 8 depending on the failure. Can you retrieve the on screen menu, showing video, setup, audio, etc?? Does it also bounce?? At least leave the tech have a go at the thing. "MrAndy" wrote in message news ![]() On Sat, 30 Apr 2005 20:46:39 -0700, dkuhajda wrote: There is no way to know without proper troubleshooting and diagnosing inside the set. The tv has multiple protect circuits that will shut the set down if there is any problem detected. If the picture still looked good the last time you used the set, you should at least have it properly diagnosed and get an estimate for repair. Especially if you can haul it into a Sony experienced servicer (save the in home trip charges, up to $100). Typical repair in 90% of cases is less than $250 if you take it in, some less than $150. You cannot replace it for that kind of money. thx for taking the time......i guess that's one way to look at it, i suppose what was leaning me to the 'dump' side was that if i repair it, it is essntially at it's design life and i'm still putting money into a 10+ year old set that may fail again....however, i guess it could continue running too. I did have a couple covergence ic's replaced a few year ago so this would be the 2nd repair.. ..the picture did look quite good still before this behavior.....except for an intermittent 'faint flashing' of 'faint white' (very hard to describe) & happened very intermittently ...(i wonder if the two are related?)....hauling it off to repair center won't work i'd have to eat the srvice call chg......hmmm......btw, would there be any indication of a fault in service menu?...or is there a way to do some sort of 'reset' that could 'rearm' some sort of protection circuit that went off? Thx again. Thx Billy, yeah it might be worth checking out, thx for the tip. |
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I had a sinilar problem couple of year sgo fixed it for the cost of the
IC STRS6301 chip $7 and my time doing that. that is all I had to change If your Sony has that chip that MAY be all that is needed to change .. as it was in my case.. do some more research there is tonns of info on the net regarting IC STRS6301 in a Sony ...good luck Apparently it is extremely common for the power converter IC STRS6301 to die. It's the same on my 20EXR20 - mine's blown twice since 1991! My Dad's 27EXR20 has blown once. If you are a gambler that this is the only problem, try replacing this IC. I paid about $10 for one from Newark or MCM. The STRS6301A seems to work as the current replacement, said to be more robust. ECG 7046 or NTE7046. I was advised to try adding a bigger heatsink to the present heatsink to aid cooling, which I did. We shall see! Servicers tend to charge about $150 for this repair. View this article only Newsgroups: sci.electronics.repair Date: 2001-02-14 23:20:05 PST Bill: Follow the suggestions on the reply post from Jerry G. ........ he is absolutely correct in his diagnosis and repair suggestions. Forget the schematic, you may not need it for this repair........If the power supply IC is a STRS6301/A, replace it. Also check all the electrolytics on the power supply board with an ESR meter.........no ESR meter??...then replace them all.....if any of the electrolytics are bad you can blow the new IC in short order. This is a very common and frequent failure mode in this power supply design. Before firing up the television be sure to check the HOT and surrounding flyback circuitry for high ESR electrolytics, shorted diodes and other semiconductors, open low ohm resistors, and check the solder connections on all of the heat producing components like power resistors, diodes, power transistors and chips, etc. -- Best Regards, Dan Sofie Electronics Supply & Repair |
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