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This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback...
the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
Garage Door Opener Range.
"Jim Thompson" wrote in message ... This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. Extend the antenna on the receiver. To the outside if possible. tm |
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Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? Retune the receiver? 30 years ago, I repaired several brands as a sideline. Some worked reliable for well over two blocks after a careful alignment. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 5/7/2014 3:27 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson Here's a gut that added coax and put the antenna outside. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwjAOvVACY ISTR some one added a reflector wire behind the antenna to solve his problem. And why not a director. Mikek --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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On 5/7/2014 4:27 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? You could work on improving the antenna, or you could just put the receiver outside and run a wire to it from the opener. I believe the "antenna" on the units I have seen is just a piece of wire hanging from the unit a foot or so. Not much to work with there... at least I would find it easier to just move the receiver to the outside of the house. -- Rick |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote:
This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' If the receiver is a separate unit, or if the antenna input is obvious, do as already suggested and move the receiver or connect an external antenna. If not, and if for some reason you don't want to rip into the thing to get at the antenna terminals, find out what frequency it works at (probably 400-ish MHz), hang a simple dipole antenna outside your garage with coax or twin-lead going to another antenna right at the opener. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 16:29:29 -0500, Tim Wescott
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' If the receiver is a separate unit, or if the antenna input is obvious, do as already suggested and move the receiver or connect an external antenna. If not, and if for some reason you don't want to rip into the thing to get at the antenna terminals, find out what frequency it works at (probably 400-ish MHz), hang a simple dipole antenna outside your garage with coax or twin-lead going to another antenna right at the opener. Maybe a gamma-match :-} ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson You need an engineer! -- John Larkin Highland Technology, Inc jlarkin att highlandtechnology dott com http://www.highlandtechnology.com |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 16:30:35 -0700, John Larkin
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson You need an engineer! Always have to go out of your way to be a turd, don't you... sad specimen you are. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 5/7/2014 5:40 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2014 16:30:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson You need an engineer! Always have to go out of your way to be a turd, don't you... sad specimen you are. ...Jim Thompson Pot, Kettle, Black, call ? |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson The Sears brand have kits, http://www.sears.com/search=garage%20door%20remote%20antenna%20extender %20kit?levels=Tools&autoRedirect=true I see a pattern developing.... Cheers |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' I assume the garage door is insulated with foil backed foam or fiberglass. Therefore, RF through the garage door is a difficult path. First, try a simple experiment. Open the garage door wide and test the range of your unspecified model garage door opener radio. If you get normal ranges (200ft or more), then the problem is the garage door shielding. However, if the range is the same, the tuning on either the transmitter or receiver is off frequency. Punching a big hole in the aluminum door insulation might help, but methinks adding some coax cable to the antenna, punch a hole somewhere in the garage wall (not the roof), and bring the antenna outside, will work best. I'm not sure what frequency your unspecified model garage door opener operates (probably 315 or 390 MHz) but the coax cable should be specified to have the minimum loss at the operating frequency. Satellite grade CATV coax cable (RG-6/u) is both cheap and low loss. Garage Door Opener Antenna Extension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwjAOvVACY (Ignore his comments on how RF travels better when it's cold and wet. His receiver is drifting with temperature. Also, you do need to ground the shield of the coax at the receiver ground). Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson A wired push button switch on a vertical pipe somewhere along the driveway approach? If that's too primitive, a 2nd remote receiver somewhere along the driveway. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:26:23 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' I assume the garage door is insulated with foil backed foam or fiberglass. Therefore, RF through the garage door is a difficult path. First, try a simple experiment. Open the garage door wide and test the range of your unspecified model garage door opener radio. If you get normal ranges (200ft or more), then the problem is the garage door shielding. However, if the range is the same, the tuning on either the transmitter or receiver is off frequency. Punching a big hole in the aluminum door insulation might help, but methinks adding some coax cable to the antenna, punch a hole somewhere in the garage wall (not the roof), and bring the antenna outside, will work best. I'm not sure what frequency your unspecified model garage door opener operates (probably 315 or 390 MHz) but the coax cable should be specified to have the minimum loss at the operating frequency. Satellite grade CATV coax cable (RG-6/u) is both cheap and low loss. Garage Door Opener Antenna Extension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwjAOvVACY (Ignore his comments on how RF travels better when it's cold and wet. His receiver is drifting with temperature. Also, you do need to ground the shield of the coax at the receiver ground). Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson A wired push button switch on a vertical pipe somewhere along the driveway approach? If that's too primitive, a 2nd remote receiver somewhere along the driveway. My own 10m illegal transmitter and receiver and a relay... ought to give me a full block's range :-} ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:40:07 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: My own 10m illegal transmitter and receiver and a relay... ought to give me a full block's range :-} ...Jim Thompson Sigh. 10m as in 28 MHz? Were you planning on operating the garage door from the adjacent state? Transistor, tube, or spark gap? 28 MHz requires a fairly large 2.5 meter antenna on both ends, or something somewhat shorter with a loading coil. Even so, the aluminum foil in the garage door, is a fairly effective barrier to RF. Move the receive antenna outside, and the foil will not be a problem. Also, you might want to measure the receiver sensitivity and tx power output to make sure your range prediction is not based on bad assumptions. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 16:40:39 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 16:30:35 -0700, John Larkin wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson You need an engineer! Always have to go out of your way to be a turd, don't you... sad specimen you are. ...Jim Thompson Geez, you have an antenna inside a metal box, and you need advice? -- John Larkin Highland Technology Inc www.highlandtechnology.com jlarkin at highlandtechnology dot com Precision electronic instrumentation |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:55:42 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:40:07 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: My own 10m illegal transmitter and receiver and a relay... ought to give me a full block's range :-} ...Jim Thompson Sigh. 10m as in 28 MHz? Were you planning on operating the garage door from the adjacent state? Transistor, tube, or spark gap? 28 MHz requires a fairly large 2.5 meter antenna on both ends, or something somewhat shorter with a loading coil. Even so, the aluminum foil in the garage door, is a fairly effective barrier to RF. Move the receive antenna outside, and the foil will not be a problem. Also, you might want to measure the receiver sensitivity and tx power output to make sure your range prediction is not based on bad assumptions. I have some old 455kHz ceramic filters... maybe that's the way to do it :-} ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 2014-05-07, Jim Thompson wrote:
This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? Buy a second receiver and wire it into the button curcuit and place it in a non-sheielded location. (bare receivers are available for use on electric gates etc) Put a better antenna on your remote, * Use some UHF coax to move the reveiver antenna to a better location. * (*) probably void the warranty -- umop apisdn --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: --- |
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On 5/7/2014 9:40 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:26:23 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' I assume the garage door is insulated with foil backed foam or fiberglass. Therefore, RF through the garage door is a difficult path. First, try a simple experiment. Open the garage door wide and test the range of your unspecified model garage door opener radio. If you get normal ranges (200ft or more), then the problem is the garage door shielding. However, if the range is the same, the tuning on either the transmitter or receiver is off frequency. Punching a big hole in the aluminum door insulation might help, but methinks adding some coax cable to the antenna, punch a hole somewhere in the garage wall (not the roof), and bring the antenna outside, will work best. I'm not sure what frequency your unspecified model garage door opener operates (probably 315 or 390 MHz) but the coax cable should be specified to have the minimum loss at the operating frequency. Satellite grade CATV coax cable (RG-6/u) is both cheap and low loss. Garage Door Opener Antenna Extension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwjAOvVACY (Ignore his comments on how RF travels better when it's cold and wet. His receiver is drifting with temperature. Also, you do need to ground the shield of the coax at the receiver ground). Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson A wired push button switch on a vertical pipe somewhere along the driveway approach? If that's too primitive, a 2nd remote receiver somewhere along the driveway. My own 10m illegal transmitter and receiver and a relay... ought to give me a full block's range :-} ...Jim Thompson If you do that, just call me, I'll open the door for you, From Florida ;-) Mikek |
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On 5/7/2014 9:40 PM, Jim Thompson wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2014 19:26:23 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' I assume the garage door is insulated with foil backed foam or fiberglass. Therefore, RF through the garage door is a difficult path. First, try a simple experiment. Open the garage door wide and test the range of your unspecified model garage door opener radio. If you get normal ranges (200ft or more), then the problem is the garage door shielding. However, if the range is the same, the tuning on either the transmitter or receiver is off frequency. Punching a big hole in the aluminum door insulation might help, but methinks adding some coax cable to the antenna, punch a hole somewhere in the garage wall (not the roof), and bring the antenna outside, will work best. I'm not sure what frequency your unspecified model garage door opener operates (probably 315 or 390 MHz) but the coax cable should be specified to have the minimum loss at the operating frequency. Satellite grade CATV coax cable (RG-6/u) is both cheap and low loss. Garage Door Opener Antenna Extension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smwjAOvVACY (Ignore his comments on how RF travels better when it's cold and wet. His receiver is drifting with temperature. Also, you do need to ground the shield of the coax at the receiver ground). Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson A wired push button switch on a vertical pipe somewhere along the driveway approach? If that's too primitive, a 2nd remote receiver somewhere along the driveway. My own 10m illegal transmitter and receiver and a relay... ought to give me a full block's range :-} ...Jim Thompson If you do that, just call me, I'll open the door for you, From Florida ;-) Mikek |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 21:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: I have some old 455kHz ceramic filters... maybe that's the way to do it :-} Ummm.... no. I suggest that you give up on building your own and purchase something that has a chance of actually working: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=wireless+remote+switch Look for 315 MHz and something with a momentary/timed/latch output jumper for the relay(s). Install the receiver antenna or the entire receiver outside your shielded garage for optimum range. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Wed, 07 May 2014 21:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: I have some old 455kHz ceramic filters... maybe that's the way to do it :-} Ummm.... no. I suggest that you give up on building your own and purchase something that has a chance of actually working: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=wireless+remote+switch Look for 315 MHz and something with a momentary/timed/latch output jumper for the relay(s). Install the receiver antenna or the entire receiver outside your shielded garage for optimum range. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:18:27 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 21:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have some old 455kHz ceramic filters... maybe that's the way to do it :-} Ummm.... no. I suggest that you give up on building your own and purchase something that has a chance of actually working: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=wireless+remote+switch Look for 315 MHz and something with a momentary/timed/latch output jumper for the relay(s). Install the receiver antenna or the entire receiver outside your shielded garage for optimum range. Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:18:27 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Wed, 07 May 2014 21:45:22 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have some old 455kHz ceramic filters... maybe that's the way to do it :-} Ummm.... no. I suggest that you give up on building your own and purchase something that has a chance of actually working: www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=wireless+remote+switch Look for 315 MHz and something with a momentary/timed/latch output jumper for the relay(s). Install the receiver antenna or the entire receiver outside your shielded garage for optimum range. Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On 5/8/2014 1:25 PM, WangoTango wrote:
In article , To-Email-Use- says... This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson An external antenna would be the easiest thing. I'm with you, antenna is the solution. I'd try cutting a director and reflector to proper lengths and just hung then in place for a test. Two pieces of wire could solve his problem. Mikek |
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On 5/8/2014 1:25 PM, WangoTango wrote:
In article , To-Email-Use- says... This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson An external antenna would be the easiest thing. I'm with you, antenna is the solution. I'd try cutting a director and reflector to proper lengths and just hung then in place for a test. Two pieces of wire could solve his problem. Mikek |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:04:25 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. Good find Jeff, looks exactly like on my visor... and the instructions are quite clear. All I had found so far were confusing and conflicting :-( Door opener is Genie 2024. Not exactly my favorite brand, but it looks like they've cured the problems I reported about 10 years ago... _jerk_ starting the door. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:04:25 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. Good find Jeff, looks exactly like on my visor... and the instructions are quite clear. All I had found so far were confusing and conflicting :-( Door opener is Genie 2024. Not exactly my favorite brand, but it looks like they've cured the problems I reported about 10 years ago... _jerk_ starting the door. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson | mens | | Analog Innovations | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | San Tan Valley, AZ 85142 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine. Sometimes I even put it in the food. |
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amdx wrote: On 5/8/2014 1:25 PM, WangoTango wrote: In article , To-Email-Use- says... This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson An external antenna would be the easiest thing. I'm with you, antenna is the solution. I'd try cutting a director and reflector to proper lengths and just hung then in place for a test. Two pieces of wire could solve his problem. That will detune the front end since it wasn't designed for a complex, 50 ohm antenna. Some of the single board controllers have an etched trace for the antenna. Also, any physical modification voids the FCC acceptance. Some of these are super regen, and a better antenna will radiate crap that will cause interference. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
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amdx wrote: On 5/8/2014 1:25 PM, WangoTango wrote: In article , To-Email-Use- says... This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson An external antenna would be the easiest thing. I'm with you, antenna is the solution. I'd try cutting a director and reflector to proper lengths and just hung then in place for a test. Two pieces of wire could solve his problem. That will detune the front end since it wasn't designed for a complex, 50 ohm antenna. Some of the single board controllers have an etched trace for the antenna. Also, any physical modification voids the FCC acceptance. Some of these are super regen, and a better antenna will radiate crap that will cause interference. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:12:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:04:25 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. Good find Jeff, looks exactly like on my visor... and the instructions are quite clear. All I had found so far were confusing and conflicting :-( If the instructions are unintelligible, they were either written by the design engineer, or translated from some Chinese. The conflicts are intentional, intended to keep tech support in business. This looks like the full solution: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080221173614AAk3Io8 Door opener is Genie 2024. Thanks. Not exactly my favorite brand, but it looks like they've cured the problems I reported about 10 years ago... _jerk_ starting the door. Any jerk can open a garage door. Are you looking for an IQ or attitude test before allowing the garage door to open? I haven't seen it done but I suspect some kind of challenge/response game can be built into the remote. Patent it? Hint: The belt drive builds up tension in the belt before overcoming the door startup friction. If the startup friction is sufficiently high, that can result in a rather spectacular lurching start. The chain drive doesn't act like a spring but makes more noise and costs more money. The fix is not to swap the belt for a chain, but rather to deal with the friction problem by finding where it's binding. Unbalanced tension/torsion on the pair of springs supporting the door is the usual culprit. I've performed several miraculous cures by simply balancing the springs or if adjustable, the spring tension. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:12:49 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 15:04:25 -0700, Jeff Liebermann wrote: On Thu, 08 May 2014 09:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: Looks like my opener receiver is part of the whole control board. Do you know of any stand-alone receivers that can be "trained" to the remotes built-into automobiles? I think my Q45 remote is Homelink brand. I'm not familiar with the Infiniti Q45 or the associated remote. Normally, I would look at the encoder chip in the Homelink and see if I can find a receiver that uses the matching receiver chip. However, Homelink works by cloning the codes from the remote, so all that may not be necessary. If the visor thing has a picture of a house above the buttons, it will do rolling code which covers most remotes. Here's the instructions for the Homelink: http://infinitihelp.com/diy/common/infiniti_homelink.php With luck, it might work with your unspecified model garage door opener. Good find Jeff, looks exactly like on my visor... and the instructions are quite clear. All I had found so far were confusing and conflicting :-( If the instructions are unintelligible, they were either written by the design engineer, or translated from some Chinese. The conflicts are intentional, intended to keep tech support in business. This looks like the full solution: https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080221173614AAk3Io8 Door opener is Genie 2024. Thanks. Not exactly my favorite brand, but it looks like they've cured the problems I reported about 10 years ago... _jerk_ starting the door. Any jerk can open a garage door. Are you looking for an IQ or attitude test before allowing the garage door to open? I haven't seen it done but I suspect some kind of challenge/response game can be built into the remote. Patent it? Hint: The belt drive builds up tension in the belt before overcoming the door startup friction. If the startup friction is sufficiently high, that can result in a rather spectacular lurching start. The chain drive doesn't act like a spring but makes more noise and costs more money. The fix is not to swap the belt for a chain, but rather to deal with the friction problem by finding where it's binding. Unbalanced tension/torsion on the pair of springs supporting the door is the usual culprit. I've performed several miraculous cures by simply balancing the springs or if adjustable, the spring tension. -- Jeff Liebermann 150 Felker St #D http://www.LearnByDestroying.com Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com Skype: JeffLiebermann AE6KS 831-336-2558 |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson --- What I'd do would be to drill a hole through the garage wall next to the door but up high, then connect a length of 50 ohm coax to a weatherproof 900MHz rubber duckie antenna with a 90 degree mounting flange/bracket and pass the coax through the hole from the outside of the garage to the inside. Next, I'd mount the rubber duckie to the outside wall with the whip oriented vertically, and weatherize the installation. Finally, I'd mount another rubber duckie on the inside wall, with the whip oriented vertically, and connect the coax. Voila! passive repeater, - probably with some gain - nice clean install, and your warranty stays intact since you haven't even touched the holy RX. |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson --- What I'd do would be to drill a hole through the garage wall next to the door but up high, then connect a length of 50 ohm coax to a weatherproof 900MHz rubber duckie antenna with a 90 degree mounting flange/bracket and pass the coax through the hole from the outside of the garage to the inside. Next, I'd mount the rubber duckie to the outside wall with the whip oriented vertically, and weatherize the installation. Finally, I'd mount another rubber duckie on the inside wall, with the whip oriented vertically, and connect the coax. Voila! passive repeater, - probably with some gain - nice clean install, and your warranty stays intact since you haven't even touched the holy RX. |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson --- What I'd do would be to drill a hole through the garage wall next to the door but up high, then connect a length of 50 ohm coax to a weatherproof 900MHz rubber duckie antenna with a 90 degree mounting flange/bracket and pass the coax through the hole from the outside of the garage to the inside. Next, I'd mount the rubber duckie to the outside wall with the whip oriented vertically, and weatherize the installation. Finally, I'd mount another rubber duckie on the inside wall, with the whip oriented vertically, and connect the coax. Voila! passive repeater, - probably with some gain - nice clean install, and your warranty stays intact since you haven't even touched the holy RX. John Fields |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson --- What I'd do would be to drill a hole through the garage wall next to the door but up high, then connect a length of 50 ohm coax to a weatherproof 900MHz rubber duckie antenna with a 90 degree mounting flange/bracket and pass the coax through the hole from the outside of the garage to the inside. Next, I'd mount the rubber duckie to the outside wall with the whip oriented vertically, and weatherize the installation. Finally, I'd mount another rubber duckie on the inside wall, with the whip oriented vertically, and connect the coax. Voila! passive repeater, - probably with some gain - nice clean install, and your warranty stays intact since you haven't even touched the holy RX. John Fields |
Garage Door Opener Range.
On 5/8/2014 7:08 PM, John Fields wrote:
On Wed, 07 May 2014 13:27:29 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: This new, very well-insulated, foil-backed, house has one drawback... the garage door opener range with the garage door closed is only about 20' Any ideas on how I could extend that range? ...Jim Thompson --- What I'd do would be to drill a hole through the garage wall next to the door but up high, then connect a length of 50 ohm coax to a weatherproof 900MHz rubber duckie antenna with a 90 degree mounting flange/bracket and pass the coax through the hole from the outside of the garage to the inside. Next, I'd mount the rubber duckie to the outside wall with the whip oriented vertically, and weatherize the installation. Finally, I'd mount another rubber duckie on the inside wall, with the whip oriented vertically, and connect the coax. Voila! passive repeater, - probably with some gain - nice clean install, and your warranty stays intact since you haven't even touched the holy RX. Everyone seems very concerned about the warranty, does anyone leave a unit modified and then call for warranty service? Let me answer that for you. Of course not, you put it back to original and then ask for warranty service. Unless your mod caused the problem. Mikek |
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