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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not
transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
Ian Field wrote:
"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? Pretty much the same as the original self oscillating chopper, control transistor (2N2222 etc) clamps the chopper base on overvoltage. The control circuit can be simple as you like or complex as you need - simple voltage divider is probably best if you sample from the end of the ladder. |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
Ian Field wrote:
"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? Pretty much the same as the original self oscillating chopper, control transistor (2N2222 etc) clamps the chopper base on overvoltage. The control circuit can be simple as you like or complex as you need - simple voltage divider is probably best if you sample from the end of the ladder. Thank you for not reading the question and avoiding what i asked for. |
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"Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? Pretty much the same as the original self oscillating chopper, control transistor (2N2222 etc) clamps the chopper base on overvoltage. The control circuit can be simple as you like or complex as you need - simple voltage divider is probably best if you sample from the end of the ladder. Thank you for not reading the question and avoiding what i asked for. I chose to interpret the question as not being silly - the TV sweep section is not designed for PWM (you might get away with burst mode thogh). It seemed more sensible to assume you were asking how to regulate the voltage on the PSU which was designed for PWM in the first place. |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:17:23 -0800, Robert Baer wrote:
Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? One thing to note is that the picture tube is part of the circuit. The coatings on the inside and outside of the tube form the filter capacitor for the high voltage. If you intend to remove this part of the PC board from the TV and use it as a stand-alone power supply, you will have to provide a replacement capacitor; probably around 500 pF @ 40 KV should do it. -- Jim Mueller To get my real email address, replace wrongname with dadoheadman. Then replace nospam with fastmail. Lastly, replace com with us. |
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How change color TV to adjustable HVPS?
"Jim Mueller" wrote in message eb.com... On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:17:23 -0800, Robert Baer wrote: Ian Field wrote: "Robert Baer" wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? One thing to note is that the picture tube is part of the circuit. The coatings on the inside and outside of the tube form the filter capacitor for the high voltage. If you intend to remove this part of the PC board from the TV and use it as a stand-alone power supply, you will have to provide a replacement capacitor; probably around 500 pF @ 40 KV should do it. Good point. TV flyback HV supplies are designed for a certain operating point, if adjustment of the voltage is needed, the current capability will suffer. I'd like to see schemo's of Glassman HV supplies to see how they do it. They are wonderful supplies, and even more wonderfully expensive! Tom |
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hifi-tek wrote:
"Jim wrote in message eb.com... On Mon, 15 Oct 2012 13:17:23 -0800, Robert Baer wrote: Ian Field wrote: "Robert wrote in message ... Attached is a truncated version of the manual as the 2Megs would not transmit. Also, are enlarged parts showing horizontal section; T703 output to CRT is about 30KV. Would be nice to have adjustment from around 10KV to full 30KV. Thankx. Do you actually need the full current that a CTV flyback stage can generate 24kV at? Years ago I was messing around with the transformer from the PSU out of an Amiga or somesuch - I'd turned the transformer around and driving one of the original secondaries with a low VCEsat power transistor to get high voltage from what had been the primary. Apart from turning the transformer around, it was the same blocking oscillator style self oscillating chopper as the original circuit - the problem encountered the first time I powered up was a continuous arc between the pins of the high voltage winding. It was neccessary to complete the circuitry including the regulation loop for safe operation. If you don't need a vast amount of current at EHT voltage, this basic circuit driving a diode/capacitor ladder will do just fine. I have no idea as to how much current these nominally supply to the CRT; suppose it is maybe 1mA or so. Current capability could decrease as voltage decreases but it would be nice to have nearly the same current capability as far down as 20KV and then decrease in current capability. I see no sense in ripping out the xfmr, building another supply do run another oscillator - why re-invent the wheel when it is there and nicely round? So,how could one vary the output voltage? One thing to note is that the picture tube is part of the circuit. The coatings on the inside and outside of the tube form the filter capacitor for the high voltage. If you intend to remove this part of the PC board from the TV and use it as a stand-alone power supply, you will have to provide a replacement capacitor; probably around 500 pF @ 40 KV should do it. Good point. TV flyback HV supplies are designed for a certain operating point, if adjustment of the voltage is needed, the current capability will suffer. I'd like to see schemo's of Glassman HV supplies to see how they do it. They are wonderful supplies, and even more wonderfully expensive! Tom Seems all adjustable HV supplies are in the $100 and up (mostly up) range; cannot afford that. The TV was wonderfully inexpensive (about $2.75 with sales tax). Anybody know the current capability and/or what the CRT anode draws at nominal brightness (30KV)? |
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