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does cocobolo change color?
I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood,
but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. |
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does cocobolo change color?
On Mar 30, 12:49 am, "Toller" wrote:
I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? It all darkens. Lovely stuff when it's fresh cut, though isn't it? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately Poison ivy's cheaper and has the same effect on your lungs. and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. It's all usable down to the smallest chip. |
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does cocobolo change color?
On Mar 30, 12:49 am, "Toller" wrote:
I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? It all darkens. Lovely stuff when it's fresh cut, though isn't it? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately Poison ivy's cheaper and has the same effect on your lungs. |
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does cocobolo change color?
Toller wrote:
I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. Cocobolo is a rosewood, but if you got 150 lb. for $50 I have to wonder if what you have is really Dalbergia retusa. A quick test is to take a piece and throw it in water, if it sinks it may be cocobolo. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"jeremy" wrote in message ... Cocobolo is a rosewood, but if you got 150 lb. for $50 I have to wonder if what you have is really Dalbergia retusa. A quick test is to take a piece and throw it in water, if it sinks it may be cocobolo. The key word is it May sink. Several woods will sink. |
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In article , "Toller" wrote:
I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? Cocobolo darkens _a_lot_ with age. I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. Got a lathe? -- Regards, Doug Miller (alphageek at milmac dot com) It's time to throw all their damned tea in the harbor again. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"Toller" wrote in message ... I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? When fresh, some of it does have an orangy color. Some of it has a deep purple color. Much of it has very light to white sap wood. Typically the wood is darker burgandy ro dark red with dark grain. Over time Cocobolo will darken like many woods. I made a coffee table some 25 years ago with Cocobolo on the top, Padauk fo for the legs and skirt and Walnut for accent. I'll post a picture on a.b.p.w. I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. Sounds like you got a pretty good deal either way. In Houston the stuff in very random S2S sizes usually goes for more than $10 per BF. The dust is an irritant, makes my sinuses run lake a river during direct exposure but for me a wipe down with a damp cloth immediately cures the problem. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"Leon" wrote in message ... The key word is it May sink. Several woods will sink. Sorry, if it sinks, it MAY be Cocobolo, Several woods will sink. |
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does cocobolo change color?
In Houston the stuff in
very random S2S sizes usually goes for more than $10 per BF. The dust is an irritant, makes my sinuses run lake a river during direct exposure but for me a wipe down with a damp cloth immediately cures the problem. If you can get it at $10/BF I will buy everything you can find. I import wood from Central and South America and Columbian cocobolo is $6/bf in country. JJ |
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does cocobolo change color?
"jeremy" wrote in message ... Toller wrote: I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. Cocobolo is a rosewood, but if you got 150 lb. for $50 I have to wonder if what you have is really Dalbergia retusa. A quick test is to take a piece and throw it in water, if it sinks it may be cocobolo. It does sink, but gently. |
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"jeremy" wrote in message t... In Houston the stuff in very random S2S sizes usually goes for more than $10 per BF. The dust is an irritant, makes my sinuses run lake a river during direct exposure but for me a wipe down with a damp cloth immediately cures the problem. If you can get it at $10/BF I will buy everything you can find. I import wood from Central and South America and Columbian cocobolo is $6/bf in country. JJ Again the key word here, "More" than $10 per BF. IIRC it is closer to $14. |
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does cocobolo change color?
cocobolo has the most distinct grain with bold grain lines in multiple
colors. I don't think there is another wood that shows this as much. kingwood does but it is far more money so that's not an issue. as otters said it does change color but some can be pretty light to begin with and stay lighter then others pieces. I had some that was almost white when I cut it then turned a light orange with age (not the sapwood either) I have had some that was Dar purple with all black lines. |
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I can answer my own question difinitively!
"Toller" wrote in message ... I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? I put the useless scraps in barrel and left them outside. The sides exposed to the sun have turned brown, while the undersides and parts shielded are still orange. Change is fast and dramatic. |
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does cocobolo change color?
On Mar 30, 6:20 am, jeremy wrote:
Toller wrote: I bought a pallet of cocobolo scraps. Some of it looks just like rosewood, but most of it is rather orange. I thought it was just normal variation until I found a piece that was orange on one side and brown on the other. I have some kingwood that was purple to start with, but browned up some after I used it; presumably the cocobolo is doing the same? I got about 150 pounds for $50. About a quarter went to firewood immediately and the rest will probably be reduced by half when I trim it to useable pieces, but still gives me a huge amount of wood for little projects. Now I just need some little projects. Cocobolo is a rosewood, but if you got 150 lb. for $50 I have to wonder if what you have is really Dalbergia retusa. A quick test is to take a piece and throw it in water, if it sinks it may be cocobolo. If it passes the witch dunking test, polish a sample up to 600 grit. If it looks like it was rubbed with 20 coats of Watco, it's probably coke. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"Leon" wrote in
: "jeremy" wrote in message ... Cocobolo is a rosewood, but if you got 150 lb. for $50 I have to wonder if what you have is really Dalbergia retusa. A quick test is to take a piece and throw it in water, if it sinks it may be cocobolo. The key word is it May sink. Several woods will sink. Natalie Wood for example. |
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does cocobolo change color?
On Mar 30, 12:37 pm, Steve knight wrote:
cocobolo has the most distinct grain with bold grain lines in multiple colors. I don't think there is another wood that shows this as much. kingwood does but it is far more money so that's not an issue. as otters said it does change color but some can be pretty light to begin with and stay lighter then others pieces. I had some that was almost white when I cut it then turned a light orange with age (not the sapwood either) I have had some that was Dar purple with all black lines. Very hard, very waxy. The coke crosscut sled runners I made five years ago haven't shown any wear. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"Father Haskell" wrote in message oups.com... Very hard, very waxy. The coke crosscut sled runners I made five years ago haven't shown any wear. What in the world are "coke" runners? |
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does cocobolo change color?
On Mar 31, 9:38 am, "Leon" wrote:
"Father Haskell" wrote in message oups.com... Very hard, very waxy. The coke crosscut sled runners I made five years ago haven't shown any wear. What in the world are "coke" runners? 3/8 x 3/4" cocobolo strips. |
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does cocobolo change color?
"Father Haskell" wrote in message ups.com... On Mar 31, 9:38 am, "Leon" wrote: "Father Haskell" wrote in message oups.com... Very hard, very waxy. The coke crosscut sled runners I made five years ago haven't shown any wear. What in the world are "coke" runners? 3/8 x 3/4" cocobolo strips. Oh,,,, Wouldn't that be Coco strips? ;~) |
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does cocobolo change color?
Toller wrote:
It does sink, but gently. It should head for the bottom with purpose. What is happening is that the CITES restrictions have encouraged the loggers to market less well known species, often using common names, or mislabeling deliberately. Sometimes the wood is actually more workable and prettier than the species it is claimed to be, and often difficult to identify without leaves or bark. JJ |
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I can answer my own question difinitively!
Toller wrote:
I put the useless scraps in barrel and left them outside. The sides exposed to the sun have turned brown, while the undersides and parts shielded are still orange. Change is fast and dramatic. Cocobolo sawn from the trunk is extremely colour stable. The roots and buttress tension wood is lighter and darkens when exposed to UV, but it is a slow process, similar to cherry. JJ |
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