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Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

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Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon


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What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

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Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon


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What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

...Jim Thompson


Thanks, Jon! I'll take a look.

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Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon


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What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

...Jim Thompson


Thanks, Jon! I'll take a look.


Webroot reports that as some type of virus. But Windowsapplication1 is
a default name for a visual studio project exe.
I would run a virus scan , houseCall or MailwareBytes and see if they
detect it.

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What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
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What the frick...


If it were easy, it would not be fun. Did you at least use Google to
search for the error message before posting?

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:
"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"
Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?


Yep. You have an application that's loading at boot that requires
dot.nyet 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5 or you machine is having a bad day trying
install yet another dot.nyet security update. Make sure you have all
the versions of dot.nyet installed. Use FrameworkDetect.exe to
determine what's installed:
http://frameworkdetector.codeplex.com/releases/view/43405
Also, run Windoze Update and make sure you have successfully installed
all the dot.nyet updates. If one or more dot.nyet updates refuse to
install, you're screwed. See below.

If dot.nyet parts and pieces are corrupted, come back and I'll supply
remove and reinstall instructions. It's a major time burner to
replace everything but it's the only way I've found that works every
time. You'll need to download the dot.nyet cleanup tool:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/net/download/earlier-versions


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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:36:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What the frick...


If it were easy, it would not be fun. Did you at least use Google to
search for the error message before posting?

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:
"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"
Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?


Yep. You have an application that's loading at boot that requires
dot.nyet 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5 or you machine is having a bad day trying
install yet another dot.nyet security update. Make sure you have all
the versions of dot.nyet installed. Use FrameworkDetect.exe to
determine what's installed:
http://frameworkdetector.codeplex.com/releases/view/43405
Also, run Windoze Update and make sure you have successfully installed
all the dot.nyet updates. If one or more dot.nyet updates refuse to
install, you're screwed. See below.

If dot.nyet parts and pieces are corrupted, come back and I'll supply
remove and reinstall instructions. It's a major time burner to
replace everything but it's the only way I've found that works every
time. You'll need to download the dot.nyet cleanup tool:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/net/download/earlier-versions


I like that... "dot.nyet" ;-)

That's what I had concluded. I'll track it down. Microsoft craps
again :-(

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On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:48:55 -0500, "Jon"
wrote:

Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon

[snip]

I'm not finding "administrative tools". What else might it be called?
This is on a Lenovo ThinkPad X61s.

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On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:48:55 -0500, "Jon"
wrote:

Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon

[snip]

I'm not finding "administrative tools". What else might it be called?
This is on a Lenovo ThinkPad X61s.

...Jim Thompson


Right click on "My computer" and select Manage.
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:31:37 -0700 Jim Thompson
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:48:55 -0500, "Jon"
wrote:

Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon

[snip]

I'm not finding "administrative tools". What else might it be called?
This is on a Lenovo ThinkPad X61s.

...Jim Thompson


Right click on "My computer" and select Manage.


Thanks! Got it...

".NET Runtime 2.0 Error Reporting"

So Jeff Lieberman's "dot.nyet" comment is indeed the problem :-)

Now to track the problem down and fix it :-(

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Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:48:55 -0500, "Jon"
wrote:

Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon

[snip]

I'm not finding "administrative tools". What else might it be called?
This is on a Lenovo ThinkPad X61s.




Look in 'Control Panel'.
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 07:31:37 -0700 Jim Thompson
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On Sun, 5 Aug 2012 17:48:55 -0500, "Jon"
wrote:

Jim, did you check your event viewer? In XP, it's in 'start',
'programs', 'administrative tools' 'event viewer. It info
should be at the top of the log, which log, I don't know.

You can clear the logs then reboot and check again.
That should help you narrow in of the cause.

Jon

[snip]

I'm not finding "administrative tools". What else might it be called?
This is on a Lenovo ThinkPad X61s.

...Jim Thompson


Right click on "My computer" and select Manage.


Thanks! Got it...

".NET Runtime 2.0 Error Reporting"

So Jeff Lieberman's "dot.nyet" comment is indeed the problem :-)

Now to track the problem down and fix it :-(



I had a problem with .net recently. I used the free version of Revo
uninstaller to rip all .net out of the computer & reinstalled it.
Problem fixed.

http://www.revouninstaller.com/revo_..._download.html
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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 21:36:17 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What the frick...


If it were easy, it would not be fun. Did you at least use Google to
search for the error message before posting?

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:
"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"
Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?


Yep. You have an application that's loading at boot that requires
dot.nyet 2.0, 3.0 or 3.5 or you machine is having a bad day trying
install yet another dot.nyet security update. Make sure you have all
the versions of dot.nyet installed. Use FrameworkDetect.exe to
determine what's installed:
http://frameworkdetector.codeplex.com/releases/view/43405


Ran that, all .NET thru v3.5 and SP's show green, except v1, which
shows red. What's that mean?

This message only appears at boot, and I don't know of any programs
balking. What programs need .NET anyway?

Also, run Windoze Update and make sure you have successfully installed
all the dot.nyet updates. If one or more dot.nyet updates refuse to
install, you're screwed. See below.

If dot.nyet parts and pieces are corrupted, come back and I'll supply
remove and reinstall instructions. It's a major time burner to
replace everything but it's the only way I've found that works every
time. You'll need to download the dot.nyet cleanup tool:
http://blogs.msdn.com/b/astebner/archive/2008/08/28/8904493.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/net/download/earlier-versions


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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

...Jim Thompson


Poking around, I discovered something had put the machine into
"selective start", probably a virus scan I ran. Going back to normal
start, error message went away.

...Jim Thompson
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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

http://frameworkdetector.codeplex.com/releases/view/43405


Ran that, all .NET thru v3.5 and SP's show green, except v1, which
shows red. What's that mean?


Which Windoze OS are you running?

Version 1.0 is not needed if you have 1.1 installed. The problem with
the framework detect program is that it doesn't show if the installed
version are working correctly. The usual indication of a problem is
an inability to install dot.nyet updates. Go thee unto Windoze Update
and see if there are any dot.nyet updates waiting to install or
failing.

Also, I'm not sure if the problem is dot.nyet or a corrupted program
trying to run or update dot.nyet. Go back to the Admin Tools - Even
Viewer and look carefully at the error messages.

For control over what's strarting, download and run Autoruns:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx
Hopefully, it will show something under "run once" that is failing. If
that's the case, and there's nothing else obviously wrong with
dot.nyet, you can probably abandon trying to fix dot.nyet and work on
the failing program.

This message only appears at boot, and I don't know of any programs
balking. What programs need .NET anyway?


Plenty. Any gigantic program, that starts slower than a snail,
gobbles RAM like it grew on trees, crashes regularly, produces useless
error messages, and tends to be unstable, is a good candidate. For
example, Quickbooks, Turbot Tacks, IIS 7, Visual Studio, Windoze Media
Center, anything that uses C#, some network monitoring utilties, etc.

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On Mon, 06 Aug 2012 17:36:31 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

http://frameworkdetector.codeplex.com/releases/view/43405


Ran that, all .NET thru v3.5 and SP's show green, except v1, which
shows red. What's that mean?


Which Windoze OS are you running?

Version 1.0 is not needed if you have 1.1 installed. The problem with
the framework detect program is that it doesn't show if the installed
version are working correctly. The usual indication of a problem is
an inability to install dot.nyet updates. Go thee unto Windoze Update
and see if there are any dot.nyet updates waiting to install or
failing.

Also, I'm not sure if the problem is dot.nyet or a corrupted program
trying to run or update dot.nyet. Go back to the Admin Tools - Even
Viewer and look carefully at the error messages.

For control over what's strarting, download and run Autoruns:
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/sysinternals/bb963902.aspx
Hopefully, it will show something under "run once" that is failing. If
that's the case, and there's nothing else obviously wrong with
dot.nyet, you can probably abandon trying to fix dot.nyet and work on
the failing program.

This message only appears at boot, and I don't know of any programs
balking. What programs need .NET anyway?


Plenty. Any gigantic program, that starts slower than a snail,
gobbles RAM like it grew on trees, crashes regularly, produces useless
error messages, and tends to be unstable, is a good candidate. For
example, Quickbooks, Turbot Tacks, IIS 7, Visual Studio, Windoze Media
Center, anything that uses C#, some network monitoring utilties, etc.


You apparently missed this message...

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[snip]
Poking around, I discovered something had put the machine into
"selective start", probably a virus scan I ran. Going back to normal
start, error message went away.

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You apparently missed this message...


Sorry. I missed it. I was reading and replying to messages in the
order received. Your announcement was next in line. When there are a
dozen new messages in a thread, it's difficult to read them all, and
then go back and try to find one worthy of my comments. Maybe I
should read messages starting from the bottom.

Subject: What the frick... SOLVED!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:25:36 -0700
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[snip]
Poking around, I discovered something had put the machine into
"selective start", probably a virus scan I ran. Going back to normal
start, error message went away.
...Jim Thompson


Congrats, nicely done. I would not have associated the error message
with that problem but it makes sense. Selective Startup is like safe
mode, where un-necessary services are not started. In that mode, the
dot.nyet libraries are not loaded, so any application that needs them
will complain.



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On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 10:14:13 -0700, Jeff Liebermann
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On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 09:50:17 -0700, Jim Thompson
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You apparently missed this message...


Sorry. I missed it. I was reading and replying to messages in the
order received. Your announcement was next in line. When there are a
dozen new messages in a thread, it's difficult to read them all, and
then go back and try to find one worthy of my comments. Maybe I
should read messages starting from the bottom.

Subject: What the frick... SOLVED!
Date: Mon, 06 Aug 2012 19:25:36 -0700
Message-ID:
References:
X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 6.00/32.1186

[snip]
Poking around, I discovered something had put the machine into
"selective start", probably a virus scan I ran. Going back to normal
start, error message went away.
...Jim Thompson


Congrats, nicely done. I would not have associated the error message
with that problem but it makes sense. Selective Startup is like safe
mode, where un-necessary services are not started. In that mode, the
dot.nyet libraries are not loaded, so any application that needs them
will complain.


Yep. Spybot asked for a scan after boot, which is what I think
provoked the message.

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On Sun, 05 Aug 2012 15:41:24 -0700, Jim Thompson
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What the frick...

Every time I boot up the laptop I get:

"Windowsapplication1 has encountered a problem and needs to close"

Annoying but seems to not be a problem otherwise. Anyone know the
cause?

...Jim Thompson


Poking around, I discovered something had put the machine into
"selective start", probably a virus scan I ran. Going back to normal
start, error message went away.

...Jim Thompson

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