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Patio Thermometer Bi-Metal Mechanism Replacement
I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal
thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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Patio Thermometer Bi-Metal Mechanism Replacement
Jim Thompson wrote:
I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( You might try searching some woodworking or crafts stores and look for kits for thermometer, barometer, hygrometer stations. Here's one: http://www1.rockler.com/product.cfm?...co okietest=1 You might hane to buy a complete unit and pul the mechanism out, but for $8, you might not get a mechanism much cheaper. The problem I see is that these units have a fixed degrees of rotation per degree temp ratio. You may have trouble finding one that matches the face of an existing instrument. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ Insert witty message here |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( You might try searching some woodworking or crafts stores and look for kits for thermometer, barometer, hygrometer stations. Here's one: http://www1.rockler.com/product.cfm?...co okietest=1 You might hane to buy a complete unit and pul the mechanism out, but for $8, you might not get a mechanism much cheaper. The problem I see is that these units have a fixed degrees of rotation per degree temp ratio. You may have trouble finding one that matches the face of an existing instrument. -- Paul Hovnanian ------------------------------------------------------------------ Insert witty message here |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:09 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( You might try searching some woodworking or crafts stores and look for kits for thermometer, barometer, hygrometer stations. Here's one: http://www1.rockler.com/product.cfm?...co okietest=1 You might have to buy a complete unit and pul the mechanism out, but for $8, you might not get a mechanism much cheaper. That's what I was thinking, as a back-up move. The problem I see is that these units have a fixed degrees of rotation per degree temp ratio. You may have trouble finding one that matches the face of an existing instrument. Already made me a cardboard template that I carry with me ;-) A preliminary shopping tour shows that it must be a Taylor bi-metal element. But I haven't yet found a sturdy one... everything is plastic, without the bi-metal encased. I may have to patch-up the existing one. Its problem is a warped housing (from the heat ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:09 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( You might try searching some woodworking or crafts stores and look for kits for thermometer, barometer, hygrometer stations. Here's one: http://www1.rockler.com/product.cfm?...co okietest=1 You might have to buy a complete unit and pul the mechanism out, but for $8, you might not get a mechanism much cheaper. That's what I was thinking, as a back-up move. The problem I see is that these units have a fixed degrees of rotation per degree temp ratio. You may have trouble finding one that matches the face of an existing instrument. Already made me a cardboard template that I carry with me ;-) A preliminary shopping tour shows that it must be a Taylor bi-metal element. But I haven't yet found a sturdy one... everything is plastic, without the bi-metal encased. I may have to patch-up the existing one. Its problem is a warped housing (from the heat ;-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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Jim Thompson wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:12:09 -0800, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( You might try searching some woodworking or crafts stores and look for kits for thermometer, barometer, hygrometer stations. Here's one: http://www1.rockler.com/product.cfm?...co okietest=1 You might have to buy a complete unit and pul the mechanism out, but for $8, you might not get a mechanism much cheaper. That's what I was thinking, as a back-up move. The problem I see is that these units have a fixed degrees of rotation per degree temp ratio. You may have trouble finding one that matches the face of an existing instrument. Already made me a cardboard template that I carry with me ;-) A preliminary shopping tour shows that it must be a Taylor bi-metal element. But I haven't yet found a sturdy one... everything is plastic, without the bi-metal encased. I may have to patch-up the existing one. Its problem is a warped housing (from the heat ;-) ...Jim Thompson If the mechanism is still OK, find someone with a small mill and have a new enclosure made (metal). That's what I'd do (always looking for an excuse to make metal shavings ;-)). -- Paul Hovnanian ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Have gnu, will travel. |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:46 -0500, legg wrote:
On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson I'd contact the 'artist' who put it there. He/she might not be so hesitant to replace the entire assembly. RL I bought it in a store around 15 years ago, and it's unsigned :-( ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | "What would happen to [Obama's] vanity if he didnt have us to throw alms to? What would become of his strength if he didnt have weaker people to dominate? What would he do with himself if he didnt keep us around as dependents? Its quite alright, really, Im not criticizing him, its just a law of human nature." -Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged" |
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On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:45 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson I'd contact the 'artist' who put it there. He/she might not be so hesitant to replace the entire assembly. RL |
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Patio Thermometer Bi-Metal Mechanism Replacement
Jim Thompson wrote:
I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson Buy a unit (second hand?) and take the pieces you need out of it. |
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On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:32 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:46 -0500, legg wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson I'd contact the 'artist' who put it there. He/she might not be so hesitant to replace the entire assembly. RL I bought it in a store around 15 years ago, and it's unsigned :-( Do you have any gremlins running around your place? I figure that's the only method where bimetalic strips wear out (or actually get bent out of shape). From memory, they are as easily re-bent back into shape and alignment, though they'll never look like they used to - the bending characteristic is preserved pretty faithfully. It's not like the spring on a jeweled pivot - also a gremlin attractor. RL |
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:06:05 -0500, legg wrote:
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:32 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:46 -0500, legg wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson I'd contact the 'artist' who put it there. He/she might not be so hesitant to replace the entire assembly. RL I bought it in a store around 15 years ago, and it's unsigned :-( Do you have any gremlins running around your place? I figure that's the only method where bimetalic strips wear out (or actually get bent out of shape). If you were keeping notes, "The plastic housing warped". From memory, they are as easily re-bent back into shape and alignment, though they'll never look like they used to - the bending characteristic is preserved pretty faithfully. It's not like the spring on a jeweled pivot - also a gremlin attractor. RL ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 15:42:09 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote: On Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:06:05 -0500, legg wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 08:16:32 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:33:46 -0500, legg wrote: On Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:45 -0700, Jim Thompson wrote: I have a nice big piece of stone art work that has a bi-metal thermometer (and a clock) mechanism built-in. The bi-metal has died (too many 120°F day ?:-). Anyone know where to obtain such a mechanism? Surfing only produces complete units, not just the mechanism. Ran onto a posted thread with similar need... NO, nada, none, responses :-( ...Jim Thompson I'd contact the 'artist' who put it there. He/she might not be so hesitant to replace the entire assembly. RL I bought it in a store around 15 years ago, and it's unsigned :-( Do you have any gremlins running around your place? I figure that's the only method where bimetalic strips wear out (or actually get bent out of shape). If you were keeping notes, "The plastic housing warped". From memory, they are as easily re-bent back into shape and alignment, though they'll never look like they used to - the bending characteristic is preserved pretty faithfully. It's not like the spring on a jeweled pivot - also a gremlin attractor. RL ...Jim Thompson I just found a web site selling the 'movement'. Looks like the span is different, but the housing size is the same, so I'll just drop the old bi-metal into the new housing. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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Can you put some sort of coating onto the housing to keep it from warping
again? Maybe take it to one of those shops that bronze baby shoes and put a thin metal coating over the outside? Jim I just found a web site selling the 'movement'. Looks like the span is different, but the housing size is the same, so I'll just drop the old bi-metal into the new housing. ...Jim Thompson |
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On 2009-03-29, RST Engineering (jw) wrote:
Can you put some sort of coating onto the housing to keep it from warping again? Maybe take it to one of those shops that bronze baby shoes and put a thin metal coating over the outside? AFAIK those shops do an investment casting, and the product is solid bronze, the same trick will work with a for plastic, expanded polystyrene, or cardboard pattern. |
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On Sun, 29 Mar 2009 10:17:34 -0700, "RST Engineering \(jw\)"
wrote: Can you put some sort of coating onto the housing to keep it from warping again? Maybe take it to one of those shops that bronze baby shoes and put a thin metal coating over the outside? Jim I just found a web site selling the 'movement'. Looks like the span is different, but the housing size is the same, so I'll just drop the old bi-metal into the new housing. ...Jim Thompson The "housing" is a shallow cup-shaped piece of plastic that warped and cracked around the edges. I'm contemplating adding a roll-a-shield for the west end of the patio to keep it completely in the shade in the summer. That ought to keep it from reaching excessive temperatures. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, P.E. | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | I love to cook with wine Sometimes I even put it in the food |
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