JF

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

(I don't have any of my 5-1/4" disk sets anymore... copied them all
over to CD's :-)

...Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:57 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.


(I don't have any of my 5-1/4" disk sets anymore... copied them all
over to CD's :-)

...Jim Thompson

I probably do, too. I have probably a hundred 3-1/2" floppy install
disks. Don't know why I keep them anymore... totally useless.

...Jim Thompson
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

---
Nah, I've got it too, as well as VST.
---

(I don't have any of my 5-1/4" disk sets anymore... copied them all
over to CD's :-)

---
I've also got 'em all on CDs, but since I'm a pack rat I've still got
the floppies.

Interestingly, (to me, anyway) I still use SDT (which runs perfectly in
a DOS window on my XP box) for schematic capture, and all of the
"formal" drawings which I post to abse are ORCAD .dxf's which I've
converted to .pdf.

JF

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:57 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

I still use it daily.

http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled1.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled2.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_as...d3_closeup.jpg

--
Boris

flipper wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

God knows where my copy of Orcad 3.21 is now ! It was certainly on 5
1/4 ". Remember making library items using a text editor as an option ?

Graham

"Jim Thompson" wrote in
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On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

(I don't have any of my 5-1/4" disk sets anymore... copied them all
over to CD's :-)

...Jim Thompson
I sold my 16k plug in memory pack for my Sinclair 1000 at
a yard sale.
Mike

Boris Mohar wrote:

flipper wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:
John Fields wrote:

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

I still use it daily.

http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled1.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled2.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_as...d3_closeup.jpg

I always liked Orcad but I only used SDT not PCB. We used a subbie for
PCB. Although somewhere I do have V3.22 ? copy of PCB.

Graham

flipper wrote:

Eeyore wrote:
flipper wrote:
Jim Thompson wrote:

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

God knows where my copy of Orcad 3.21 is now ! It was certainly on 5
1/4 "

Oh wow, one of those fancy dancy 'new' versions. Mine is 1.25 (1986).
LOL

Remember the 8 inch floppies in the Intel 'blue boxes' too ? I'n sure I
still have one somewhere as a momento.


. Remember making library items using a text editor as an option ?

Yeah. Been a long time but, if I remember correctly, you then
'compiled' it into a parts library file with composer.

You could be right. Maybe that was an earlier version I started on than
3.21 then ?


Really is amazing to see how far things have come. The Orcad/SDT 1.25
schematic capture program "DRAFT" is 83.6K, that's K. The overlay file
is 13.8K for a whopping 97.4K.

On a modern program just the splash screen is bigger than that.

The whole thing, with all 'utilities' and drivers, plus a half dozen
projects, doesn't fill one floppy.

And the floppy held the OS too.

Graham

"Boris Mohar" wrote in message

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:57 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

I still use it daily.

http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled1.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled2.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_as...d3_closeup.jpg

I remember trying to use the DOS version of STD, but it seemed to break
connections when a wire was moved, instead of rubber-banding. I went to
something else, but maybe there was a way to make that work.


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On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:51:22 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


"Boris Mohar" wrote in message

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:57 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

I still use it daily.

http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled1.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled2.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_as...d3_closeup.jpg

I remember trying to use the DOS version of STD, but it seemed to break
connections when a wire was moved, instead of rubber-banding. I went to
something else, but maybe there was a way to make that work.

---
Block - Move - Begin - End (BMBE) with a window crossing, or the cursor
on a single wire will move the wire and break the connection.

Block - Drag - Begin - End (BDBE) with a window crossing at least two
wires and their junction or the cursor at the junction of two will
rubberband the connection.


JF

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

(I don't have any of my 5-1/4" disk sets anymore... copied them all
over to CD's :-)

...Jim Thompson

We used Autocad on 286s. We plotted at 4x and then had photos taken.

Then came the real PC CAD packages for PCB layout. There has been a lot
since '86 though. The selections are numerous, the complexity diverse.

The stuff on my PC now as far as legacy goes is TangoPCB. It prints to
HP laser printers and is the best damned little layout package for sub 4
layer work you can get. Quick and dirty (quite clean actually).

Sure, it will do more than that, but at that point the better, newer
packages are the right tool. For little two sided or simple SMT stuff
though, it is pretty damn good. It easily does 0402 form factor stuff.

On Fri, 17 Oct 2008 09:03:24 -0500, John Fields
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:51:22 -0400, "Tom Del Rosso"
wrote:


"Boris Mohar" wrote in message
m
On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 18:31:57 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 15:55:14 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Tue, 07 Oct 2008 17:22:08 -0500, John Fields
wrote:


JF

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

I still use it daily.

http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled1.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_assembled2.jpg
http://www.viatrack.ca/Pix/EMSYS1_as...d3_closeup.jpg

I remember trying to use the DOS version of STD, but it seemed to break
connections when a wire was moved, instead of rubber-banding. I went to
something else, but maybe there was a way to make that work.

---
Block - Move - Begin - End (BMBE) with a window crossing, or the cursor
on a single wire will move the wire and break the connection.

Block - Drag - Begin - End (BDBE) with a window crossing at least two
wires and their junction or the cursor at the junction of two will
rubberband the connection.


JF

RBBB

Rubber Baby Buggy Bumper :-)

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 21:35:51 -0500, flipper wrote:

On Wed, 08 Oct 2008 13:34:20 +0100, Eeyore
wrote:



flipper wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Wanna see my PCB 386+ v1.00 DOS (OrCAD) ?:-)

Hehe. I've still got Orcad from my old 286.

God knows where my copy of Orcad 3.21 is now ! It was certainly on 5
1/4 "

Oh wow, one of those fancy dancy 'new' versions. Mine is 1.25 (1986).
LOL

. Remember making library items using a text editor as an option ?

Yeah. Been a long time but, if I remember correctly, you then
'compiled' it into a parts library file with composer.

Really is amazing to see how far things have come. The Orcad/SDT 1.25
schematic capture program "DRAFT" is 83.6K, that's K. The overlay file
is 13.8K for a whopping 97.4K.

On a modern program just the splash screen is bigger than that.

The whole thing, with all 'utilities' and drivers, plus a half dozen
projects, doesn't fill one floppy.



K as in kilo is ALWAYS lower case.