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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

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Jim Thompson wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



Copy the image and paste it into 'Paint', then crop it, save it, then
copy and paste the new image into your document.

There are tiny 'buttons' on the right side and bottom of the 'Paint'
screen that you click and drag to crop each edge. You can do the left
side or top by flipping the image. It is part of Windows, and only
takes a couple minutes to figure out for most people.


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Jim Thompson wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



Copy the image and paste it into 'Paint', then crop it, save it, then
copy and paste the new image into your document.

There are tiny 'buttons' on the right side and bottom of the 'Paint'
screen that you click and drag to crop each edge. You can do the left
side or top by flipping the image. It is part of Windows, and only
takes a couple minutes to figure out for most people.


Paint won't open PostScript files.

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Paint won't open PostScript files.


My linux box has a ps2pdf utility. I'll bet it runs on windows
if you have the cigwin stuff.

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Jim Thompson wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 13:24:57 -0400, "Michael A. Terrell"
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Jim Thompson wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



Copy the image and paste it into 'Paint', then crop it, save it, then
copy and paste the new image into your document.

There are tiny 'buttons' on the right side and bottom of the 'Paint'
screen that you click and drag to crop each edge. You can do the left
side or top by flipping the image. It is part of Windows, and only
takes a couple minutes to figure out for most people.


Paint won't open PostScript files.



I didn't say it would. I said to copy the image from the PostScript
file.


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wrote:

Jim Thompson wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



Copy the image and paste it into 'Paint', then crop it, save it, then
copy and paste the new image into your document.

There are tiny 'buttons' on the right side and bottom of the 'Paint'
screen that you click and drag to crop each edge. You can do the left
side or top by flipping the image. It is part of Windows, and only
takes a couple minutes to figure out for most people.


Paint won't open PostScript files.


You could open up the ps in GV and then alt-print scr to capture the screen
and paste into paint then crop there and then copy and paste into word.


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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Tried Irfanview? It will open postscripts, crop, and save as, say, a
gif or jpeg.

John

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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:13:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson



Tried Irfanview? It will open postscripts, crop, and save as, say, a
gif or jpeg.


I've tried that a few days ago and it leaves a nasty black area where
the cropped away stuff used to be.

Jim, as Mark said you might as well import into Word as is and then crop
there. Invoke the image toolbar.

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Hi,

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.


make a eps with GS/GV. There you are able to give the outline manual, if
needed. You also may be able to convert the ps to ascii, if it is in binary
now, then you should be able to do this via notepad, that's the way I prefer
;-)
Other way is to convert the ps (with GS/GV to a editable vector format like
AI or others. There I prefer emf that works well with M$Office

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Hi,


I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.



make a eps with GS/GV. There you are able to give the outline manual, if
needed. You also may be able to convert the ps to ascii, if it is in binary
now, then you should be able to do this via notepad, that's the way I prefer
;-)
Other way is to convert the ps (with GS/GV to a editable vector format like
AI or others. There I prefer emf that works well with M$Office

Marte


Why all this trouble? You can crop nicely right in Word, no matter what
format. As long as the imported graphic shows on your screen you can
crop it right there.

I am certainly not a Microsoft fan and IMHO they should not design
operating systems anymore but their MS-Word is quite a good product.
Very practical, useful, and it doesn't have the bloat or leave memory
leaks like OpenOffice does. I have yet to find a better word processor
than MS-Word, but I'm not looking for one because it works.

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Marte Schwarz wrote:

Hi,


I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.



make a eps with GS/GV. There you are able to give the outline manual, if
needed. You also may be able to convert the ps to ascii, if it is in binary
now, then you should be able to do this via notepad, that's the way I prefer
;-)
Other way is to convert the ps (with GS/GV to a editable vector format like
AI or others. There I prefer emf that works well with M$Office

Marte


Why all this trouble? You can crop nicely right in Word, no matter what
format. As long as the imported graphic shows on your screen you can
crop it right there.


Nicely? It crops each border, manually, in inches, and you can't see
what will happen until you exit the format box. If you've resized the
picture, it still crops in the original dimensions! Any modern program
will let you drag a crop box just where you want it.

The way Word handles images is a disgrace. Hell, the way it handles
text is a disgrace!


I am certainly not a Microsoft fan and IMHO they should not design
operating systems anymore but their MS-Word is quite a good product.
Very practical, useful, and it doesn't have the bloat or leave memory
leaks like OpenOffice does. I have yet to find a better word processor
than MS-Word, but I'm not looking for one because it works.


It's a ghastly mess.

John

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John Larkin wrote:
On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:13:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Tried Irfanview? It will open postscripts, crop, and save as, say, a
gif or jpeg.

John


I find that .png format is way better for line drawings.


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John Larkin wrote:

On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:13:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson



Tried Irfanview? It will open postscripts, crop, and save as, say, a
gif or jpeg.

John


I find that .png format is way better for line drawings.


Yes! Remarkably small file sizes and surprising clarity at the other
end. I use that 90% of the time and it renders nicely on almost any PC.

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Hi,

I find that .png format is way better for line drawings.

Yes! Remarkably small file sizes and surprising clarity at the other end.
I use that 90% of the time and it renders nicely on almost any PC.


png is a bitmap format, and never as good as a vector format if you have a
vector grafic. The pitty is that word isn't able to handle vector graphics
in a useful way :-( Even Powerpoint can't do this in a clean way.

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Hi,


I find that .png format is way better for line drawings.


Yes! Remarkably small file sizes and surprising clarity at the other end.
I use that 90% of the time and it renders nicely on almost any PC.



png is a bitmap format, and never as good as a vector format if you have a
vector grafic. The pitty is that word isn't able to handle vector graphics
in a useful way :-( Even Powerpoint can't do this in a clean way.


Ok, but PNG can be read by pretty much any PC and that's what really
matters to my clients. Also, PNG produces schematics and stuff in small
file sizes and stunning clarity.

I used to import lots of HPGL files into DOS-Word in the 90's. Never a
problem. I don't know whether Win-Word does it as good, somehow HPGL has
fizzled away a bit.

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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Jim,
You can crop in Word. There is a crop tool in the Picture toolbar. To
bring up the picture tool bar, View|Toolbars|Picture. The toolbar is
visible if it is checked in the menu. Select the image, click on the
crop button and move the handles to crop your image.

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On Sat, 08 Sep 2007 10:13:01 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson


Jim,
You can crop in Word. There is a crop tool in the Picture toolbar. To
bring up the picture tool bar, View|Toolbars|Picture. The toolbar is
visible if it is checked in the menu. Select the image, click on the
crop button and move the handles to crop your image.

Mark


Yep, Just tried it. Works great!

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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



I use a capture thing called MWSnap for this - you can pick an area to
capture and save it as a jpg, bmp, gif, tiff, or png. I think it's free.
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Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.



I use a capture thing called MWSnap for this - you can pick an area to
capture and save it as a jpg, bmp, gif, tiff, or png. I think it's free.


I just tested ghostview ,just copied the whole page,
then cut and cropped in paint.
Tested the gs file in ifranview, it refused the ps,
but it accepted the clipboard paste obtained in ghostview,
and cropped nicer than paint did.
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Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

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Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
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Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson


Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:19:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:

Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson


Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany


I suspect the same is true of Adobe :-(

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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 13:26:55 -0400, Spehro Pefhany
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:19:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:


Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson


Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.

Best regards,
Spehro Pefhany



I suspect the same is true of Adobe :-(


Methinks if you edit everything in MS-Word, then when all the I's are
dotted and T's are crossed store it as PDF, shouldn't it all be gone?

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Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.


I suspect the same is true of Adobe :-(


Probably not if you capture a print job to a pdf.


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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:19:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:


Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson



Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.


Which brings up an interesting point: Is there a way to purge all this
stuff in MS-Word?

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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:19:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
wrote:


On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:


Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to PDF,
after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and then copy and
paste into Word.

---Joel


I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson



Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.


Which brings up an interesting point: Is there a way to purge all this
stuff in MS-Word?


I "print" it to PDF and I think that does the trick (except for the
meta information you can see in Acrobat). Office also has the Document
Image Writer for a fax-like bitmap (TIFF) image.

Here's some info on actually purging it from the Word file:
http://nhbar.com/publications/archiv...ssue.asp?id=99


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Spehro Pefhany wrote:

On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:19:21 -0700, Jim Thompson
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On Mon, 10 Sep 2007 10:04:37 -0700, "Joel Kolstad"
wrote:


Jim,

Do you have the full version of Adobe Acrobat?

If so, it comes with Distiller, which will convert the PostScript to
PDF, after which you can just use Acrobat to crop the image, and
then copy and paste into Word.

---Joel

I do have Adobe Acrobat v7.0.9

Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?

...Jim Thompson



Dunno, but I would not crop (out) sensitive material with Word.
Chances are very good it's still there in the file somewhere.


Which brings up an interesting point: Is there a way to purge all this
stuff in MS-Word?


One way would be to copy the text into a plain text editor, make a new
Word document, and paste it back. Then you'd *probably* be safe.

You could also get the plugins so that you could save your document in
standard odt format. Since this is just a renamed zip file containing
the data in xml files, you can open it up and view the raw data in a
text editor.
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Is cropping in Adobe file-size efficient?


My experience is that it does OK... since PostScript files can contain
embedded bitmaps, if you have a large bitmap and you crop it there's a
significant file size reduction, whereas if the PostScript file is a handful
of "drawing"-type command along with a large "library" of utility routines,
cropping doesn't change the file size much at all... since all the bulk is in
the library routines, I suppose.

I was thinking you didn't necessarily want the entire drawing embedded within
a Word document, even if it was cropped to the view you desire... but if
that's OK, I think that approach probably is the easiest.

---Joel


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Jim Thompson wrote:
Anyone using GhostScript/GhostView?

It's been awhile since I've used it.

I can't remember the way to crop a PostScript image.

I have a schematic that is like 5 transistors in the middle of the
page and would like to crop off all the excess white-space and border
markings before inserting in a Word document.

Thanks!

...Jim Thompson



pstoimg is probably the best tool. Something like this commandline I'm guessing.

$ pstoimg -type png -crop a -out outfile.png infile.ps


pstoimg is a perl script, but you could probably just run it in debug mode to
get the GS calls directly. I don't know how to set to set crop markers, sorry.


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