In article , John R. Carroll
says...

Today's military are professionals Gunner. The real deal. They require the
same from their civilian leadership.

And that would be who, rumsfeld, cheney?

I think that there's a big leadership vacuum at the top. Those
two guys above don't really care what kind of political deep****
dubya winds up in, domestically. He's a lame duck at this point
right now, that's for sure.

As long as they can realize their aspirations overseas.

Jim


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