Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:54:57 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 12:50:31 GMT, "Pete C."
wrote:

Cliff wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:35:28 GMT, Bing wrote:

If you can find a dropoff cite for things like water, blankets, food etc
then IMO thats the best way to go

That's the LAST thing they *need*.

because I think yer taking the money
equation out of the beaurocrasy.

Send money. Then what's actually NEEDED can be
purchased as & where needed.

After all, it's not like the neocons or the shrubbie are
doing much .... or seem to have done any planning
with their homeland insecurity .....


Gee Cliffy, I though even you might show a little class and be
constructive in the face of a significant natural disaster. Guess you
don't have even the slightest bit of class...

Pete C.

Money will help.
Your old junk, unless you live nearby, is not likely to
and they don't have the resources right now to come
& get it anyway.

The neocons are doing little enough it seems. After
all, who wants the government to interfere?

When is bush going back on vacation? He's out stumping
to refill his coffers now it seems, having (briefly) overflown
the sights.
--
Cliff

Based on the numerous previous smaller disasters that have occurred in
the US, I would expect most of the trucking companies are already
coordinating to truck donated supplies to the area at cost or free.

Purchased relief supplies, perhaps.
Where would you expect their replacement furnishings to go?

How about to the stadiums that are being used to house the refugees?
Last time I looked places like the Astrodome weren't setup for people to
live in. They certainly aren't going to be putting 75,000 people up in
hotels. They will need plenty of "furnishings", blankets, etc. for a
fair amount of time until people can be disbursed to longer term
accommodations.


We now have perhaps a million people (anyone have a good number?)
lacking homes to go back to or jobs. All need to be relocated.

That is indeed a problem, but not one we need to focus on today or
tomorrow. Probably 30 days out after the more immediate concerns are
addressed.

Will there be a housing shortage?

There already is a housing shortage. Hopefully a reasonable percentage
of the refugees have some relatives that will be able to take them in
for a while.

What of their property & bank records & suchlike?

What property? Their property for the most part is gone. Bank records
and similar are stored on computers last time I looked (today) and are
readily retrievable.


How many actually had federal FLOOD insurance? Normal
insurance will cover about none of the water damages.

Well, if they were living in New Orleans and had a mortgage they
certainly had flood insurance. If those without mortgages chose to do
without flood insurance they will simply have to take responsibility for
that choice. Those who simply could not afford flood insurance have a
lot of paperwork to look forward to in order to try to get assistance.


With donating goods or personal services (i.e. got there and help) there
is far less opportunity to relief agency mismanagement /
misappropriation.

The neocons are willing & able, right?

Well, if you're including religious groups on the "neocon" list then,
yes, most certainly. In fact looking at a FEMA list of relief agencies
currently working in the area, it's abundantly clear that most are in
fact religious groups. Being a devout atheist myself, I find it rather
distressing that there are so few non religious relief groups to donate
to.

When YOU get there you are going to live & eat & drink & go
to the bathroom exactly where?

Um, perhaps in the same camps with the other relief workers?


Which immunizations do you alreadty have?

Not sure how relevant this is currently. Most folks have the standard
batch of immunizations, and at this point the disaster area hasn't quite
reached the point where it's an immediate concern. Certainly will reach
that point fairly soon if they aren't able to pickup the bodies and get
things draining.


The head of the relief agency isn't going to be able
to buy themselves a new company BMW with the pallet of diapers you
donate.

Which would be wasted.

Exactly how would said pallet of diapers be wasted? Every picture I've
seen on CNN or any other source has shown plenty of people with infants
who will indeed need diapers.


As for the government, they seem to be doing exactly what they are
supposed to be doing. FEMA, the agency that is supposed to plan for and
manage emergencies such as this is certainly there assessing and
coordinating as they are supposed to do. Various military units are in
the area bringing in supplies and bringing out the survivors. The Army
folks are working to repair the levies. The only complaint I've heard is
that they diverted some helicopters to rescuing people from rooftops
instead of working on the levee repairs.

What exactly do you think the government should be doing to help the
Katrina recovery that they aren't already doing?

Pete C.
--
Cliff

I see you have no answer to what the government you so despise should be
doing to help the Katrina recovery that they aren't already. Very easy
for you to sit around and attack the actions of others, a bit more
difficult to come up with anything constructive eh?

Pete C.