On Thu, 1 Sep 2005 07:31:42 -0400, "Mecoman"
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:10:01 -0400, "Mecoman"
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"Cliff" wrote in message
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On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:45:22 GMT, Strabo
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I am a moral man without religion.

Perhaps. Morality does not require religion but
principles and consistent morality does require a
nature that seems to elude you.

"Morality" is from religion.

Morality is derived from religion, but can exist separate from it.

Name someplace where they tossed the religion out.

Cannot, on a community basis. It is only on an individual basis, where a
person has moved away from religion, but still lives by a moral code.

Don't get confused.
"Moral code" or ethics?

One of the oft-cited reasons for religion (ask any two-faced fundie)
is that they would be very, very bad if left to themselves ... they
NEED superstitions to keep them, at least a little, behaving
properly.
The boogey-man will get them ....

OTOH Some dude died for their "sins" and all will be forgiven at
some later date by someone .... so what they do NOW really
does not matter much (as long as they don't ggt caught) unless
they are planning on dying soon.
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Cliff