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Actually I suspect it is not "bad luck".

Both Lincoln and Miller have been higher "Dead Out Of The Box" rates on
their products.

Pushing their employees ( to meet production goals to the point where
quality control is suffering) to pay off those acquisitions of a few
years ago might have something to do with it.

The point about talking directly to the OWNER and not the manager is
well taken.

TMT