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Walter R.
 
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Default My $45 homemade 10 HP phase converter is WORKING!!!

Very interesting, but what is a phase converter used for?
Since this is alt.home.repair, do I need a 10 hp phase converter?
Just puzzled
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"Ignoramus23077" wrote in message
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thanks to everyone for your thoughts!

Many pictures and the story in several chapters:

http://igor.chudov.com/projects/Phase-Converter/

Here's the copy and paste of the text from the webpage:

MAIN PAGE

This text details how I made a 10 horsepower rotary phase converter
from $45 worth of parts that I bought from an industrial junkyard
gloriously called Pioneer Industrial Services.

At some point, after reading rec.crafts.metalworking and this
excellent article on making homemade phase converters, I became
excited about the idea of making a rotary phase converter from second
hand parts.

I spent about an hour calling around and finally found a guy Dave from
Pioneer Industrial Services, who said that he had used 3 phase
motors. He has a junkyard full of used electrical components. Here's
what I bought, and for how much.

The nice surprise was that the 10 HP motor was possible for me to
manhandle alone.

My first prototype was a simple setup with no switch at all, I simply
touched the wires to the 240V pieces of the subpanel. Click here to
see and read about the first prototype. It sucked and took a long time
to spin up, due to poor contacts. It was atrocious.

My second prototype included installation of a 50 amp circuit breaker
into the panel, hard wiring of the wires to the breaker, and use of a
Definite Purpose Contactor and a regular lamp switch to turn the
contactor on. Click here to see and read about the second
prototype. This works great, but is ugly and unfinished.

My future plans nclude making a nice carriage on little wheels for the
converter, and hiding all electricals inside safely.

WHAT I BOUGHT

I bought the following:

* 10 HP 3 phase Century motor - $40.
* 7.5 HP US Electrical Motors 3 phase motor - $20. I bought it
just in case.
* 30A heavy duty Square D single throw switch - $8.
* 50A Definite Purpose 3 wire normally open relay - $3.
* Five 535 V 92 mF capacitors the size of a vodka bottle - $5 for
all ($1 each).

Dave from Pioneer Industrial Services is highly recommended, he is
friendly and his proces are reasonable. I was able to pick everything
that I needed, from him. He is in Addison, IL.

FIRST PROTOTYPE

The very first try was quite simple. I spun the motor by hand and
then applied power. No capacitors. The motor was finally able to
accelerate, after much difficulty. That proved to me that it was not
"fried".

My first prototype was simply a test of the concept -- would a three
phase motor spin up like they say, if I apply capacitance between one
power leg and the generated leg?

I wired the motor as follows: two legs of 240V were connected to the
two legs of the motor. These I call Leg 1 and Leg 2. Leg 3 was
connected to Leg 1 via three capacitors wirted in parallel. You can
see that on pictures.

That made the motor spin up reliably, but slowly due to very poor
contact between my wires and the subpanel. After that, I decided to
try better wiring. See next chapter.

SECOND PROTOTYPE

Since the concept obviously worked, I now wanted to go a little bit
farther and wire it more properly.

I wired it as follows. I installed a 50 A crcuit breaker in the
subpanel. I hard wired the 8 gauge wires with one end into the
breaker, and another into the 3 pole definite purpose contactor.

The contactor is a neat thing that, when 110 V is applied to two
sensing contacts, with very little current drawn from 110v it closes
the big contacts for all three poles.

Legs 1 and 2 of utility 240V were connected to legs 1 and 2 of the
motor. Leg 1 (on the motor side, not on utility side) was ALSO
connected to one side of the capacitor bank. Leg 3 (the wild,
generated leg) of the 3 phase motor was connected to the other side of
the capacitor bank. That's how self starting phase converters should
be wired according to this excellent article on making homemade phase
converters

The converter now would spin up in less than a second. My next task
was to measure voltages between legs, which would be suggestive of the
actual degree of phase shift. The voltages were as follows: 256 V
utility, 239V, and 271V. I did not like it.

I then removed one 92 mF capacitor from the bank, leaving only two
capacitors with the total capacitance of 184 mF. The effect of this
was that instead of less than a second, the motor would spin up in
about one second. Not a big deal to me. The voltages now were as
follows: 256 V utility, 240V, and 260V. I decided that I should go
with two capacitors.

Costs of parts actually used, so far:

* 10 HP motor -- $40
* Definite Purpose contactor -- $3
* 2 capacitors, 92 mF each -- $2

The total cost, so far, is $45. Wires and new breaker do not count.