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brugnospamsia writes

"Richard Faulkner" wrote in message
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In message ,
brugnospamsia writes
Dear group,

I have lived in my "first time buyer" terraced house for 21 years and
can't
see myself "upgrading" in the forseeable future.

Having had the roof rebuilt, the 140 year old upstairs ceilings were shot
and I found it made sense to completely replace them with new timbers and
foil-backed plasterboard.

I am now faced with two non-level, bouncy and bendy upstairs floors and
given that the downstairs ceilings also need replacing, I am wondering if
this is the best solution here too. The under-spec. joists run front to
back
and are (loosely) cemented in to the outside and stairwell walls so the
replacement joists would have to be attached to wallplates and hangers. I
plan to use 22mm t&g chipboard in anticipation that most buyers in my area
tend to want carpet or laminate upstairs rather than sanded boards (I
plan
to have carpet upstairs and sanded boards downstairs).

Why not have a steel bar fitted below the ceiling, and bedded into the
walls. This would certainly take any bounce out, and removes the need to
replace all the joists and flooring.

You would probably need to get a structural engineer to specify the steel
bar, and its' bedding, and you may need building regs approval.


You mean at 90 degrees ?


Yes.

thanks for the suggestion, but I'd sooner not lower the ceiling (and it
might well look suspicious to a future purchaser if the floor looks "shored
up" !) ... the other problem is that the party walls are only one brick so
it would cause problems - even if I got past the party wall act ....

I've done this with 2 floors/ceilings in a big Victorian semi, and a
future purchaser wouldnt know it had been done. My party walls are only
1 brick thick aswell, but we just did it carefully and the neighbours
were fine about it.

Anyway - only a suggestion from experience g

I reckon there wouldn't be much difference in the cost either - and the
ceiling needs replacing anyway ...


It feels a bit radical but my brother tells me he regrets not replacing his
upstairs floors - I think it may have been because he was so relieved they
hadn't been touched by the dry rot that was eating the whole house when he
bought it .....







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Richard Faulkner