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Default Buying a Flat - Insurance, Subsidence & Underpinning Questions/Concerns

You've not posted to the right type of surveyors, but...

Buildings move - especially all those Victorian / Edwardian properties built
on London Clay. I personally would not bother with a second opinion. A few
hairline cracks are nothing to worry about, especially now that the tree has
been removed. If you went round every 100 year old property in London, you
would be hard pressed to find one without a few cracks in the walls.

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Steve Bury

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"waz" wrote in message
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We are in the process of buy a flat, which is in a converted house,
and about 100 years old. There are 4 flats in the block, with the
share of freehold split across them.

As there were 4 flats in the converted house, our surveyor said that a
full structural survey would be very expensive, and almost impossible
to complete, as access to all parts of the building would be
restricted therefore we opted for a homebuyer's survey.

The survey took place yesterday, and on speaking to the surveyor, some
issues have come about.

There are some fairly minor ones concerning missing roof tiles etc,
but the one which has made me very nervous about proceeding with the
purchase is the mention of an insurance claim which has just been
completed for the flat next door (which is in the same house) and the
hallway.

It relates to some cracking which started in the walls 2 1/2 years
ago, and the couple who live there put an insurance claim in.

The insurance company called in 3 separate structural engineers over
the course of the next 2 years, and monitored the cracks. They said
that underpinning was not required, and work on replacing/repairing
some interior walls and redecorating was required.

In the last 3 months, the claim went through, and all the work on the
next door flat and hallway has now been completed.

The reasons for the cracks appear to be:

- The house has clay foundations (as many London properties do in that
area), therefore hot weather over the past few years could have caused
it
- There was some shrubbery and a tree which have since been
treated/removed

Our surveyor said that the work was remedial work, and that it
required superficial work, such as replastering/painting etc, however
our flat was unaffected.

When he looked through our flat he noticed 2 hairline cracks which he
also said were superficial, and would just need a lick of paint, and
warned against insurance claims for such petty work, as it does not
look good on insurance record.

His only recommendation from the homebuyers survey was that we (the
block), stay with the same insurance company going forward, to prevent
any future insurance companies rejecting any future claim, and
claiming the damage occurred before the were the insurer.

He also said that as we are paying for the insurance through the
service charge, we should get a projection on future increases in the
insurance costs.

I asked if this work would jeopardize the lender underwriting the
loan, and he said it was "a storm in teacup, and not a problem"

Due to these insurance claim/recent 'subsidence' my main concerns are
as follows:

- will this work/claim affect the price of the house, and its resale
potential
- What are the chances of this recurring
- What's the chances of the house requiring underpinning in future
(the surveyor said it's impossible to say, and this risk exist with
any house of this age in that area)
- If underpining/future work is required, how can we protect ourselves
against any costs

I also am considering getting a second opinion, or getting a surveyor
to go through the 3 structural engineering surveys which have take
place over the past 2 1/2 years - is this worthwhile?