"RichardS" noaccess@invalid wrote in message ...
"BigWallop" wrote in message
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The trade organisation he/she was a member of will be able to
advise on these procedures
for you. If the installer has died or moved away out of the
country, then the matter is
taken up by the powers that regulate that particular trade. So you
do have a comeback on
someone if this does occur. If the installer wasn't part of any of
these organisations,
then they wouldn't be properly certificated and, hence, shouldn't
be installing that type
of equipment. So it goes back to being a DIY job.


You reckon that the trade body would accept any liablilty whatsoever
because
one of their past members had done a shoddy job? Or that they would
do
anything other than fight like hell to protect their member's
interest?



To be honest I think a reality check is needed here.

1. IME every bit as much professional work is incompetent and
muppet-like as DIY work.

2. The vast majority of DIYers are carry out work competently. Those
without the necessary level of competence rarely touch electrics or
gas, for reasons I could go into separately.

3. The few that are dangerous are not likely to follow any new rules
anway, since they make no attempt to follow or get informed about the
existing ones. Hence legislation against such work is ineffective.

4. The new drive for professionalism unreasonably penalises all
DIYers, while having no effect on the dangerous few.

5. The only visible 'benefit' is to the wallets of the trades
concerned, members of which routinely charge rip off prices for poorly
done jobs that most of us can do for close to nothing and to far
higher standards ourselves.

6. There is no serious justification for preventing those who are
competent from doing their own DIY work of any shade, whether it be
electrical, gas, structural, heating, whatever. Competence should be
all that matters. The new drive claims to discriminate on grouns of
competence, but in reality does not at all.

I suppose for completeness I should ask if you are in one of these
trades yourself?


Regards, NT