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"Mary Fisher" wrote in message
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"Kevin Chambers" wrote in message
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I've been (mostly) reading this group for over a year whilst
renovating my house and during that time have got some usefull
information from it.

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required which they could charge £500 a day for (plus overcharging
for
the parts obviously) and that I couldn't legally do anything unless
I
found someone to do the gas and certification.

The trades are setting new standards all the time, and equipment
suppliers
and
manufacturers are constantly changing designs and styles to comply
with
these new
standards. But the DIYer is not changing with the times as fast as
the
trades are, so
problems are now starting to arise from this gap in knowledge. Any
reputable
tradesperson will be constantly updating their techniques to allow for
new
things
coming to the market and, in most cases, this is long before the DIYer
is
even aware
of what is happening. So new found dangers and changes to the codes
of
practice can
arise due to faults that were found with older techniques and newer
methods must then
be introduced to compensate for them.

The average DIYer still has the "That'll do it for me" way of thinking
when they carry
out an unfamiliar job. Fact. But, if the work they are carrying out
can
be dangerous
to people and / or even the environment, then the work is deemed, and

rightly so, to
be unsuitable for safe use. This is where new certification schemes
would
come into
play.

Scenario 1;

The work carried out on a service installation by the DIYer in their
own
home isn't
perfectly done. The house is then sold on, but still has the defect
in
the work
carried out by the last DIY owner. The new occupier is lying in bed
one
night and
suddenly BLAM !!! the cooker pipework, or the shower wiring have burst
into flames due
to the defect left by the last owner.

Who's at fault ? The new occupier because he didn't check everything
?
But he works
as an accountant and doesn't know anything about DIY at all.

Is it the previous owners fault ? But he had no regulations to
prevent
him from doing
that type of work, so is he fully responsible ? He felt confident
enough
in doing the
job to his own standard.

Scenario 2;

The installation is fully tested before the new occupier moves in.
This
is all done
by people who know what to look for and how to test for all types of
fault
that might
be dangerous to the new occupier. He finds the fault during his
survey
and warns of
the impending danger. The new occupier has the defect repaired so
that it
isn't a
danger any more. No BLAM !!! in the middle of the night. No lives
lost
due faulty
installations.

Which of these two scenarios would you prefer to happen ?

There's a third scenario. The work is done by (say) a CORGI registered
fitter, a sole trader. For whatever reason it goes BLAM - at any time in
the
future.

The fitter can't be found - moved, changed jobs, died ....

What then?

Mary


The trade organisation he/she was a member of will be able to advise on
these procedures
for you. If the installer has died or moved away out of the country, then
the matter is
taken up by the powers that regulate that particular trade. So you do
have a comeback on
someone if this does occur.

Not if you're dead.

Mary