"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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TURTLE wrote:
"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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TURTLE wrote:

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This is Turtle.

Let me put this one on you. Did you know that regular gas with no Alcohol or
additives has to be 6% water to start with !

TURTLE

Nope, didn't know that. Not sure I believe it since the water and gas are
not miscible and would just pool in a container. BTW, 6 percent of 20
gallons would be a pint of water. That much in the bottom of your tank would
probably cause the car to not start and would likely ruin the gas filter.

Suggest that you put a gallon of fresh gas in a gallon jug. Tip it about 30
degrees so all the water will pool in a small area in the bottom and then
check after sitting for a day. No water? Put a teaspoon of water in and see
if you can see that pool? If you can, then don't believe the 6 percent water
in gas.


This is Turtle.

I see you have not burned well head drip gas stolen from the well heads and
burned in your truck or car. Well head and drip gas like this has no water in
it and burns pretty hot and will burn your valve out of your engine in a year
or so. So the hands had to put a jug of water dripping water into the
carberator while running to keep the cyclinder from burning too hot. Without
the water the gas will burn your engine up in just a short while.

And no they refinnerys don't just pour the water in the gas and hope it will
mix. they call this refinning the fuel. Now when the water drops out of the
fuel. It is called bad gas and will give you trouble tring to burn it without
the water in it. You need to check with a person that deals with the
propertys that gas has in it and find out about the water in it.

TURTLE
You're right, I have never used or stolen any gas in my life, well head or
other. I'm no gasoline expert, but well head gas is low octane and that is
why it burns up engines. Adding water reduces the octane requirement and that
principle was used in the water injection airplane engines, but just dripping
water in to the carb isn't very effective, but would reduce cylinder
temperatures.

My reading does not indicate refineries add any water to gasoline. The only
way that they could keep it mixed in is if they also added an alcohol or other
oxygenate; lots of gasoline blends do not include any oxygenate, so any added
water would just pool.

Refining has nothing to do with water, it consists of distilling petroleum
into different fractions, naphtha, diesel, tar, etc. and cracking which is
splitting long chains into shorter more useful chains such as those in naphtha
(gas).

I think your 6 percent water is just an old wives tale. I haven't searched
the ASTM and SAE specifications for gasoline but doubt that there are any that
deal that indicate 6 percent water is acceptable or that require added water.

This is Turtle.

The reason I say this is I worked for Exxon Co. U.S.A. in the off shore
production operations and the engineers would use this to make money off anybody
who was mouthing off about the production operation. They would bait them up and
bet them about the 6% water and loose when you really went and checked up how
much water is suppended in gas. It is not in the form of water but all the basic
item are there if you check up and see. Water is H2O and there is 6 % H & O in
the gas and in the right perportions. The % may very as to the Octane rating but
still around 6 % .

TURTLE