"Eric R Snow" wrote in message
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On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 19:39:09 -0800, "Harold and Susan Vordos"
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"Eric R Snow" wrote in message
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Could it be Harold that the reason you don't know anybody adversly
affected is because they are dead?
ERS

Dunno. I checked the obit's this morning, only to find I'm strangely
missing from the listing------

I ran an electronics connector modification job for Univac time and
again.
The body of the connectors got split, machined and drilled. After
handling, the only thing that would clean them perfectly that I found
was
the use of chlorothene. The parts were submersed, swished around
and
quickly withdrawn and dried with a blast of air. That left them
free
of
finger prints and spots. Moments after contact with the
chlorothene
I
could taste it in my mouth, so I know it had to be absorbed to some
degree
through my skin. Mind you I'm not bragging about how healthy I am,
but I
just had a physical, and at this point in time I seem to be normal.
I
haven't used the solvent in that fashion since '83, but prior to that,
I
was
exposed to it fairly regularly. None of my peers have died that
had
similar experiences, nor do I know of any of them that have had any
health
issues aside from one, who had kidney failure (and diabetes). He is
doing
well with his second kidney transplant. First one didn't work.

As I said, I don't think I'd lose any sleep if exposed to the things
we
use
in the shop, but I'd certainly avoid any unnecessary contact.

Talk about taking risk------how many people worry about being exposed
to
solvents, all the while reaching for their cigarette?

Harold

Of course your sample is scientific.

No claims of any kind. Simply reporting that which I know to be true. I
am
not endorsing the use of solvents, nor do I think they are harmless.

It's too bad that when we need a
kidney transplant the first one will fail.

Speaking of scientific matters? I fail to see the connection. Are you
suggesting because you once saw a brown dog, that all dogs are brown?

Harold

Of course not Harold. But you were implying that the health risks from
certain solvents were minimal because neither you or the people you
knew were apparently harmed by it. Applying your logic, exaggerated a
little, to your friend with kidney failure, led to my statement. So,
as you can see, I was being a little sarcastic. About both of your
statements. Whew!
Cheers, Harold

I figured you missed the point, and you did.

I guess what I should have told the OP was that he had but a short time to
live, because there are cases on file that are well documented where people
have suffered and died from the same type exposures. In some instances,
they grew three eyes and a couple extra legs.

This person is worrying about dying because he happened to sniff some
chemicals a time or two. Being prudent, I provided a couple extreme
examples of experiences I've had, in my mind, enough to put his mind at
ease. Drawing from a group of over 100 machinists, there are none
suffering from exposure at this point in time, and the exposure was severe.
That's not to say that some won't have trouble, but if severe exposure has
not brought forth any health issues over such a long period of time, a case
of simple exposure on occasion is highly unlikely too. Get it, Eric?

If you think for even one moment that I feel the use of solvents is
harmless, you're nothing short of nuts! I'm concerned each and every time
I use anything as common as paint thinner. On the other hand, I also
realize that to try to do the things I have to do and not use such
substances is absurd. We face certain risks each and every day, simply
by being alive. Prudent people do the best they can to avoid the
hazards, but they don't quit living to do so.

Harold