I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show jim rozen
wrote back on 13 Mar 2005 07:30:40 -0800 in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

I am reminded of an incident, reported at the time, when Lizzie
Borden's sister came to visit her while she was in jail. The sister came
in and said, in an even tone of voice, "Quite the situation you've caused."
and then proceeded to say not another word the entire hour. Neither did
Lizzie. In the uptight (nay, repressed) WASP culture in which the Bordens
lived, this was the equivalent of a screaming row.

Grubman, or Borden?

I'm sorry, I'm not understanding the question.

pyotr

--
pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."