"George E. Cawthon" wrote in message
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xrongor wrote:
i didnt mean to come off as bitter as i may have in my original post.
ive just gotten a bit tired of being continually criticized for offering
something besides 'buy model number xxxyyy and install it with bracket
zzzzzz that you can get from www.buyitnowdontmakeit.com'

the other thing that i dont get; i see people spending all this money on
tools these days, but it doesnt seem like anybody knows how to use them
any more. if it doesnt attach to a cordless drill body, its a mystery.
when i was in school you HAD to take a shop class. im pretty sure
they've dumped that requirement. between budget cuts and fear of
lawsuits...

randy


"Jack Sandweiss" wrote in message
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As an old amateur radio operator, you struck a chord with me. Fixing
things
today means knowing where to buy the part, not at all as much fun as
scotch
tape and glue, with, heaven for bid, some thought about electronics and
creativity. Today, research has become a "link". I remember climbing
through open stacks (and, Google misses a LOT)
Jack




You had to take shop? I never had to take, but I did take a year. My
father was born in 1898 and he never had to take shop. But he did for 4
years of high school. I'm curious, what time frame and what state
required such a thing? I could see CA maybe MA.

this was in the 70's in WA state. everyone had to take a quarter each of:
home economics (how to balance checkbook, invest and save money, etc), shop,
cooking, and something else useful.


None the less, I agree with you. But as the world gets more complicated,
fixing things requires more knowledge and some people are barely able to
tie their shoes. Hell, they can't even check to see if the appliance is
plugged in before calling the repairman.

Contrary to the BS you keep hearing from educators, people are NOT getting
smarter. More people that ever are being mis-educated; although that has
always been common in small groups large groups of mis-informed people
result with the current technology. Kooks and kook believers are as
common as ever and always will be.

no child left behind... lol

randy