"mark" wrote in message
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Oh I know the point!...I did graphic design for a living for about 5
years....It's like the client saying, "I like the idea, but can you make
it
edgier and more hip, without it being brash?"

Reminds me of a friend who does Mac support. He relaed a story to me where
a client asked a designer if he could just make the design "prettier". The
designer told my friend "oh, sure...I'll just hit the Apple 'pretty'
button".

todd