DaveC wrote:

So the answer is... no.

If power fails at the remote site, so does the control circuitry and its
power. So a traditional delay relay won't work.

The relay, powered by mains, simply opens the wireless sensor's sense circuit
when power goes away. I just want it to do so after waiting a few minutes to
see if power comes back on.

The alarm isn't for security purposes, just for letting those responsible
know that certain things have occurred, one of which is power fail. The
sensor is a wireless device run on a lithium battery, and is a packaged deal
so has no spare power available. The relay's not near the alarm CPU, so that
power isn't available, either.

Suggestions for a simple mains-powered circuit that will open a pair of
contacts about 5 minutes after de-energizing? If it's to be battery-powered,
it needs to be super-low drain. I rather keep battery replacements down to
every 2 years, at most.

An idea that just struck me: the presence of mains power could keep this
circuit de-energized. When power fails, the battery is connected to the
circuit which starts the countdown. When zero is reached (ie, 5 minutes have
passed), a pair of contacts would open. And the energizing circuit
(triggering these contacts) would only have to be a one-shot; once the alarm
is triggered, the circuit could de-energize. That way the battery is utilized
only briefly, during power-fail situations. How might I construct such a
circuit?

Thanks,


Here's an even better mod to Tony's circuit. You need
4 parts - all available from Allelectronics:
5 volt regulated wall wart p/n DCTX-512 $3.50
Minature 4.5 volt relay p/n RLY-639 $0.75
1N4001 diode (1 needed) p/n 1N4001 15 for $1.00
1 farad 5.5 volt super cap p/n CBC-12 $3.50

D
Wall + ------|---+-----+
Wart +|C |
=== Relay
| |
- -----------+-----+

I suspect the relay will stay energized longer
than 5 minutes. You can add a second diode to
reduce the time. You might need to add resistance
in parallel with the super cap to reduce it further.
This depends on the characteristics of the relay -
I don't have one to test.

Ed