On Mon, 13 Dec 2004 17:45:03 -0800, The Independent of Clackamas
County wrote:
Gunner wrote:
http://www.hundredpercenter.com/HumveeArmorFacts.html
Gunner
"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas
While your facts about Humvee Armor is interesting it still doesn't
cover the real problem. The Humvee armor thing is more about the two
factions with in the department of defense over which paradyme the US
military will embrace over the next 20 to 30 years.
One side in the pentagon is all for this lighter, faster, more agile and
lethal military, (Which interestingly enough is also much cheaper than
the heavy armored forces favored by the more traditional minded of at
the Pentagon. Of course you know which side of the isle the cheaper
military falls on don't you.
The problem with the Humvee is that it wasn't designed to do the job we
are asking it to do, as it was never supposed to be an armored personnel
carrier. Even when armored up the troops in th field don't like it. As
I have talked to a goodly number of returning Oregon national guardsmen
and to the man they support having more APC's and less Humvee s.
As one Guardsman said, you know that when a armored Humvee rolls over on
you you are just as dead as if you had been shot by an AK-47. Check out
he number of GI's that have been killed in traffic accidents verses
those killed in fire fights. (most traffic accidents are vehicle roll overs)
The Independent of Clackamas County
Ayup. Seems like its time to get all those APCs that are stockpiled in
Kuwait dusted off. But then...having armored behemoths running over
little kids is always the way to make friends and influence enemies.
No matter if an RPG will kill one just as well as a Hummer...shrug.
Gunner
"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas