On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 15:06:51 -0800, The Independent of Clackamas
County wrote:



pyotr filipivich wrote:
I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Sat, 11 Dec 2004 08:28:13 GMT in
alt.machines.cnc :

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 06:19:13 GMT, pyotr filipivich
wrote:


Chuckle..the prison warden was approached and being something of a gun
fan, allowed Williams to construct and test fire the weapon in the
prisons workshop. He also aided him in getting Remington and others
to look at the design and the rest is history.

As I understood it (but I am basing it on the movie, starting James
Stewart), Williams designed it in solitary to keep from going bonkers, then
started building it on his breaks. From the movie, I take it that Mr
Williams was your basic cantankerous American who didn't think much of
being told what to do or not to do by government employees.

http://faceprint.com/~walpd/gen/moor...n_pate_03.html


Hmmm - okay, so he (Williams) was less than a sterling citizen. "Takes
all kinds." as they say, only the reality is more like "We got all kinds."

He apparently would have been able to answer affirmatively "Have you
Rehabilitated yourself, kid?"


tschus
pyotr



What David Marshal (Carbine) Williams designed was not a carbine but the
short stoke gas piston system. In Williams design the gas piston and
cylinder is located near the chamber and when a small amount of gas is
bled down into a enclosed cylinder that contains a piston, the piston is
thrown violently to the rear. The piston has only a very small movement
(1/3 inch) but the force by with it hits the operating rod is sufficient
that the residual energy of the striking of the operating rod is
sufficient to cycle the weapon. When the operating rod reaches battery
(fully closed position) it pushes the piston to the top of the cylinder.

The history of the M-1 carbine indicates that it was a part time project
of a group of engineers at the Winchester arms company. When the US
Government issued the request for the carbine in 1940, Winchester
submitted its design of a carbine that fired a 110 grain projectile at
1850 fps from a Inch and a half long sholderless case with the Williams
Gas system and got the contract

The locking system, with the the bolt mounted extractor and plunger
ejector were adopted from the M-1 Garand Rifle.

The Independent of Clackamas County

Quite true. But it makes good press and a decent movie. And Williams
did die with over 50 firearms patents to his name, including making
the Johnson Rifle actually work.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas