In article , "TURTLE" wrote:

"Clark Griswold" wrote in message
news:iSgkd.594225$8_6.90242@attbi_s04...
It's sad to see Turtle go down in flames, but when you're wrong, you are
wrong.


This is Turtle.

There is no right and wrong here.

Bull****. Using 14/2 in a 20A circuit is wrong. No two ways about that. It's a
violation of the NEC.

You need to explain what is wrong here before you can say there is or something
wrong.

That's been explained thoroughly already: the maximum overcurrent protection
permitted by the NEC for 14-gauge copper circuit conductors is 15A. Period.

In Louisiana the NEC code is Appliable but Home owner can do as they please as
long as they do the work by theirself and not get anybody '' for hire '' to
work on the job. Other states have different regulation that may let the NEC code be
inforced by a homeowner doing the work but Louisiana has no such ability of law
enforcement, fire dept. , or any inspection dept. of any thing to enforce a
home owner to wire his house a different way.\

OK, fine, we'll assume you're right about that. That does not change the
facts, which a
1) 14/2 on a 20A circuit is a violation of the NEC.
2) The NEC in some places (many, actually) carries the force of law.
3) It is therefore illegal in those places to use 14/2 on a 20A circuit.
4) Just because Louisiana allows it, does not mean it's allowable everywhere.

When you don't know the laws in a different state like Louisiana, you make
mistakes like you just did by speaking out or being a band wagon member.

Hellooooooooo..... Earth to Turtle.... *YOU* are the one who made the mistake,
out of ignorance of the laws in other jurisdictions. *You* made the blanket
statement that it's not illegal, ASSuming that what was true where you live
was true everywhere else. News flash: it's not.

Knowing
what NEC code say has nothing to do with what the state laws are on appling the
NEC code. State laws can over ride NEC if they see fit to do so for NEC is a
Code and not a law of any kind.

False. In many places, the NEC is adopted by law, in its entirety, as the
electrical code for that jurisdiction, which means that _in_that_jurisdiction_
the NEC *is* the law.

Please tell me about the Louisiana State laws are on Home Owner doing their own
work and Jail terms that Apply. Here is you a little secret here. There is
none.

It doesn't matter what the laws are in Louisiana. All that matters is what the
laws are where the work is being done. You stated that using 14/2 on a 20A
circuit is perfectly legal. This may or may not be true, depending on where
the dwelling in question is located -- but the point is, YOU DON'T KNOW. And
therefore you shouldn't be giving advice like that when you don't know what
you're talking about.