In article , Woodchuck Bill
wrote:

They appear to be legit. This can be a good thing. If Susan and Vito ever
really submit a multiple group reorganization, the rebuttle from NAN would
be "There's already an alt.* group like that". If the soft wreck proponents
were behind these three new groups, the charters would probably be much
more restrictive and preachy. If the kook(s) was/were behind them, there
would probably be a more ridiculous/crude element to the charters.

There's a "Charles Sheller" listing in the vote result for
soc.religion.satanism and rec.woodworking.all-ages. Voted yes on both.