On Tue, 24 Aug 2004 02:03:15 -0500, Morris Dovey wrote:

Mike Hide wrote:

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at times it is necessary to relinquish some civil rights to
ensure the security of the country.

A sometimes seductive notion; but not true.

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Who was it, Ben Franklin, that said something along the line of: "He who gives
up essential liberties for security, deserves neither"?

Tom Veatch
Wichita, KS USA