Mary Fisher wrote in message
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"simpi" wrote in message
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I was a musical child and (pitifully) practiced the piano on a
cardboard template cos my family couldn't afford a piano. You have to
have grade 5 piano to study music at university,

Good Heavens! It used to be grade 8 even for a college ...
Never has been grade 8 for a music degree, even at Oxbridge.