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On 11/06/2021 15:23, whisky-dave wrote:
On Friday, 11 June 2021 at 13:48:30 UTC+1, Fredxx wrote:
On 11/06/2021 11:23, T i m wrote:
On Fri, 04 Jun 2021 18:28:16 +0100, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

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Of course Tim would agree. It was the point he was making.

rolls eyes DickHeadxx is just *really* *REALLY* thick.

That's a bit rich coming from someone who claimed:
1) eating meat "making viruses that are lethal to mankind antibiotic
resistant".
And when told viruses have always resistant to antibiotics you still say:
2) "becoming more so because of or exposure to antibiotics in
meat."

It took a few goes from numerous poster for you to actually accept that
"eating meat makes viruses antibiotic resistant" was a lie.

3) Despite claiming to be an expert on the Raspberry Pi, you claimed
that "the Pi can't be considered the best choice for a serious / long
term system is that it runs on an SD and that's not good for long term
writes". You were disingenuous to the poster who pointed the RPi can
load from SD card and then no more writes. So no writing at all once the
image is loaded onto the card.

Your eyes may roll, but first look in the mirror to see a fanatic devoid
of judgement and knowledge.
The problem is, if you are 'keeping' (unnaturally of course) an animal
that is destined to be killied and it's flesh eaten, if it get's ill
and dies the exploiter (of that animal and it's flesh) won't get much
/ any money for it if it dies.

So the exploiter would likely be willing to waste *some* money / time
on it (all the exploited animals have a price / value on their heads
of course so it's not compassion, just 'money') and gives it
antibiotics, those antibiotics will then stay in that creature for
some time and the rules re how much can be left before the animal
*then* killed (?), chopped up and it flesh eaten by us are likely to
be such a time when it's considered to be below some arbitrary level,
eg, not none? Hence *our* antibiotic resistance.

Would that be antibiotic resistance to viruses? As you've already been
told the jury is out on that one. Either way I am happy to ban the use
of antibiotics on all animals.
And the exploiters talk about this with no sense of irony (because to
them there is none, it's just a commodity, even though it's often more
intelligent than their 'pet' dog), 'I need to get it well to send it
to the abattoir ...' .

Food is food. Your plant food is a commodity too.
I sort of get the idea of getting a prisoner 'well' before applying
the death sentence as 'the point' is to apply the 'ultimate
punishment' you can apply to a sentient being', taking it's life and
that is most pertinent / relevant when they are full of life (like all
the very young animals killed for their flesh).

If you kill an animal (or person) because they are suffering it's
called 'a mercy killing' when you are doing it for them, not you /
society (and if it your pet they still don't use a bolt gun or gas
before cutting it's throat).

So advocate an alternative method of slaughter. I'd be happy to ban the
use of CO2, would you?
Cheers, T i m

p.s. Another example of DickHeadxx's blinkered focus on animal welfare
(because he likes the taste of animal flesh too much).

I like it because it is part of a natural healthy diet, and where I want
my loved ones to grow with a fully developed brain, and not be stunted
when children are fed a strict vegan diet and end up with a IQ over 10
points lower than a child eating a vegetarian diet.


Do you have a link or something where this is stated as a researched FACT.
As I don't believe they have tested your theory on kids for 20+ years

https://www.bbcgoodfood.com/howto/gu...t-healthy-kids
Yes it's difficult and you need to be intelligent enough to understand, but most parents find it easier to send their kids off to takeaways or use delivery services , so they can stay in and watch reality TV shows.


I feel it is hard to beat the BBC for accuracy. There must be other
articles.

https://qz.com/1622642/making-your-k...me-in-belgium/

Which does suggest there is genuine harm. I haven't done any more
research on this. Either way without more information or more studies I
would be reluctant to endorse a child being fed a strict vegan diet any
more than giving a dog or cat an exclusively plant food diet.

Historically there are so many unknown unknowns in our diet all I can
suggest is a child should be given a wide range of foodstuffs in the
hope that more good is done than harm.

I often cook what you might call varied meals but the children tend to
be fussy eaters. They adore chicken. They do like fruit of various kinds
so try and keep that available during their visits.

'Vegans must be stopped'
https://www.facebook.com/story.php?s...scmts=scwspsdd

I bet he will be first to sign the petition, completely missing the
point as usual and all his standard (strawmen) 'arguments' are in the
comments as well.

I would be the last. Sorry to burst your bubble.

I keep on saying I have nothing against you having a vegan diet, even if
you wish it to be otherwise. It's you fanaticism that is detrimental to
encouraging others to consider a vegan diet.


yes he does come across as rather fanatical on most things ;-)

You should be ashamed. Your
fanaticism is a very good example of why we should eat meat.


I'll D. Trump you on that. "good clean coal" , "sky rocket downwards", covid 19 is a fake virus, then it's the chinese virus, lets look into injecting people with bleach, or put a strong light inside them and many other quotes from a
person brought up on fast food because it's clean. 74 million people voted for him, most brought up on a meat intensive diet the USA is one of the highest consumers of meat which is also injected with various additives
which is hardly natural anyway.


I abhor the additives, to include hormones and routine antibiotics given
to farm animals. If there is a free trade agreement, I truly hope the
meat will be marked accordingly. I will avoid it.