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Default OT: Vaccine causes virus mutations?



"Commander Kinsey" wrote in message
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On Tue, 08 Jun 2021 04:28:34 +0100, FromTheRafters
wrote:

on 6/7/2021, Rod Speed supposed :
FromTheRafters wrote
Rod Speed wrote
FromTheRafters wrote
Commander Kinsey wrote

Doesn't giving a coronavirus vaccine to everyone increase the
chances of
the virus mutating to avoid the vaccine? So we should be using it
sparingly.

Good point actually.

Nope, shows a complete misunderstanding of how viruses mutate.

Only if you take his "everyone" literally and assume that it is 100
percent
effective at preventing "hosting" the virus.

Doesn't need to be anything like 100% effective at reducing
the chance of getting infected to radically reduce the number
of hosts that the virus can reproduce in. That's the only way
it can mutate, by reproducing.


Yes, it needs a host.

It seems you don't understand how viruses mutate

My original statement is completely accurate.


I didn't say it wasn't, I said the OP had a good point.

or how vaccines work.

And so is my later elaboration on that too.

The best of the covid vaccines have been shown to dramatically reduce
the
rate of covid infection in the vaccinated. They don't just reduce the
rate of
severe infection and death as you previously claimed in another of your
posts.


I didn't say that. I said:

"vaccinated people can still host the virus and spread it to others"


This means that while hosting the virus their systems present an
environmental selection against the currently targeted shapes of the
various vaccines' antibodies.


My point exactly.


It doesn't work like that.

Why have a vaccine if you can still pass it around?


Because the absolute vast bulk of the vaccinated don't.

And even more importantly, having the vaccine means people are less likely
to take other precautions,


That's because vaccines work much better than all other precautions
except complete isolation which isnt feasible for most.

more likely to host it


That's just plain wrong.

and more likely to be showing the virus how to mutate.


And that is too. There is no showing involved either.