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On Wed, 9 Jun 2021 11:18:07 -0700 (PDT), Ed
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I've not read the article


Nor did I. Most are BS and posted by zealots. ;-)

but I've been vegan for about 18 years.


Good on you. ;-)

A well-planned and thought out vegan diet is required.


Any diet (and by 'diet' we mean what you eat every day to survive of
course) should be well planned. The funny thing is few seem bothered
what anyone eats until you mention you are a 'vegan' diet then all of
a sudden they become 1) interested in your diet and 2) become
nutrition experts themselves! Up to that point, they assume everyone
must be eating a 'Balanced diet' and we know that's rarely the case.

Then in my opinion it's incredibly healthy.


It is indeed. Lower LDL cholesterol, less chance of bowel cancer,
heart attacks or diabetes. It's also better as a consequence to us all
not having to live in so much pollution, lower risk of zoonotic
pandemics and antibiotic resistance.

There are issues with possible zinc deficiency and B12 but I can counter these by saying that soil has become depleted of minerals by generations of intensive farming.


Quite. And why they supplement the feed we grow (in places like the
Amazon) and feed the animals, along with providing it via implants in
their digestive systems.

It's thought that over a billion people are zinc deficient. Safe to say, they're not all vegan, though many will be vegetarians if they live in India.


It is suggested that 40% of the general population are B12 deficient
and as you say, the majority of those will (statistically) be meat
eaters.

B12 is actually misunderstood. People think it only comes from meat. It actually is a bacterium that lives on leaves, which the animals eat.


That and the water they / we used to drink that contained the same
bacteria. Now it's all chlorinated etc.

I do supplement with B12 and zinc picolinate


As do we, both directly and via the many foods that rare already
supplemented ... and that seems more sensible than generating the B12
and feeding it to animals (70% of the B12 created is fed to livestock)
in the hope that 1) we eat the meat (and many don't for many reasons)
and that we actually absorb it. It is known that we absorb the B12
more efficiently in the crystalline form (as found in supplements)
than trying to extract it from the meat protein.

but if we were living thousands of years ago, growing our own food, etc. I doubt I'd need to.


Quite, but we aren't and there are way more of us vieing for the same
resources (land, food, water) than there were 1000 years ago. ;-(

To the person who called veganism a "crackpot religion", it's neither of those things.


Of course it isn't, as humanity moving to a plant based diet is being
recommended by many experts as what we are doing now isn't sustainable
and because of cold hard facts, not any 'beliefs'.

In fact, the 'belief' seems to only come from those who 'believe' it's
'normal' for us to still be causing innocent sentient creatures
unnecessary pain, suffering, exploitation and death in 2021 when for
the vast majority there are so many alternatives available (and often
were of course). ;-)

Cheers, T i m