On 06/06/2021 23:29, T i m wrote:
On 6 Jun 2021 21:13:02 GMT, Tim Streater
wrote:

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This is one of my biggest bugbears. The only thing stopping vegans being
€œnormal€� guests is their inability to compromise. Id have a lot more
respect for folk on self imposed restrictive diets if they followed normal
social codes and compromised when theyre guests.

ITYM unwilling.

Nope, simply not an (ethical) option. See, some people do have ethics
and stick by them.

And you don't; evidenced by keeping dogs.

Some of us are ethically open minded, and find it ethical to consume
food prepared by a friend rather than refuse.

They're not unable, at all.

Of course they are, just as likely you would be if they brought in a
live rabbit for you to kill, prep and cook for you all.

Some of us don't have the skills to prepare rabbit, and use a butcher or
purchase from a local supermarket.

And no, it is not "just as likely" however you might wish it to be.

There are selfish ****s who expect
you to put yourself out for them.

I doubt it very much. More like you being an arrogant **** who wants
to force his views on a guest / guests (of all people).

The arrogant **** is the one who expect their host to jump through hoops
to prepare an acceptable meal. A very selfish and arrogant ****.

I wouldn't,

Of course you wouldn't, you are a Goblin and devoid of any humility.

Is that your way of saying he has a point and you don't?

although SWMBO would, given
notice.

She could (easily) have done better (than you).

We had a relly visit once who was coming for dinner. He phoned when
the grub was already cooking (FFS!) to announce that (1) he was bringing the
g/f and that (2) she was a veggie.

Was it 'likely' that the food would already be cooking when he phoned?

Why not? Just because you are a compulsive liar doesn't mean everyone
else is.

What sort of meal was he 'expecting'? I wouldn't 'expect' people to
make a big fuss and if you were already cooking 6 hours before the
dinner time I wouldn't have thought that 'excessive' (when a sandwich
would have been fine).

An edible one, that he might have appreciated.

That didn't go down at all well, with
either of us.

Aww bless. I bet you wrote and angry letter to your MP didn't you and
it upset your whole year?

Is that your way of saying he has a point and you don't?

But then he had form for being thoughtless.

Then that could set a precedence and you might have been ready for the
outcome that happened and made something suitable (like a stew or
curry). If he was 'known' to be like that I would have eaten when
agreed (if I was hungry at that time) and he / they could have had
eaten whatever you could be bothered to prepare (or order in) when
he/they arrived. Or 'it's in the kitchen, help yourselves'.

Have you never had someone 'pop in' and fed them, or does it always
have to be arranged weeks in advance and all signed in triplicate?

Yep, and they've eaten heartily, and thanked me. Not sort of behaviour I
would expect from a fanatical vegan.