On Sun, 6 Jun 2021 20:22:13 +0100, alan_m
wrote:

On 06/06/2021 20:06, T i m wrote:


There is enough arable land to grow enough food to feed the entire
world population 1.5x over.


Only if the diet of people in richer countries was lowered to match the
diet of people in poorer countries

Nope, as it stands now, unless you are trying to conflate content bias
with nutritional quality? I haven't since going vegan and have no
plans in the future ... to eat foods that I don't enjoy.

What I have done (at minor initial inconvenience) is stop eating
things I shouldn't have been eating in the first place so I've not
*stopped* eating anything (I should).

- no great variety in food and no
substitute meat products for vegans.

What is all this 'substitute for meat' stuff? You talk of it like it's
some elixir or multivitamin and it's neither. It's consumption is one
of the current biggest causes of heard disease, bowel / colon cancer
and diabetes and why ALL the medial health practitioners recommend you
cut down on meat and increase the consumption of fruit, veg, nuts etc.
I'm not aware of anyone being advise to cut down on their intake of
fruit and veg (other than people going OTT with fruit smoothies etc).

However, you seem to be also advocating "re-greening" of the countryside
and more sustainable farming (aka low productivity farming).

I'm not, I'm not a farmer, the scientists and farmers are because they
know what we are doing is both destructive and unsustainable.

Ok, when did we do for *thousands* of years before we had the means to
artificially fertilise the land? A, 'crop rotation', just the act of
leaving a field to go fallow for one in four years (or somesuch,
remembering it from school) is enough to keep the land fertile.

Plus, someone developed a fertiliser that was (blind) tested by a
specialist in the field and he determined it was the best quality
fertiliser he'd ever seen. It was made from plant waste.

Cheers, T i m

p.s. I have a mate who is a big meat eater and who has to regularly
take stuff (like Fybogel, doctors orders) to keep him 'moving' (for
risk of something more serious). The chances are, that would happen
naturally (and more naturally) if he ate less meat and more fruit /
veg.