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On Thu, 27 May 2021 13:51:13 +1000, "Rod Speed"
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On Wed, 26 May 2021 15:52:34 -0400, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 5/26/2021 1:44 PM, Frank wrote:
On 5/26/2021 1:24 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/05/25/tesla-ditching-radar-for-autopilot-in-model-3-model-y.html



I sometimes get concerned and recall a comment that if cars were like
computers they would probably crash every few days.

One of the problem with cars and all machines for that matter is that
they are crashing more often because of all the computerized crap in
them.

We are finalizing an issue like that right now with an electric stove
that has become a money pit after only two years. Company and dealer
are replacing all the electronic for us at minimal cost.

I'm active on an auto forum. Unlike may years ago, no one need a ring
job these day but the amount of electronics issues is amazing. Far more
than mechanical.

Not sure how much blame goes to the car makers as opposed to the
consumer. Car buyers want all the goodies. Many questions are about
why my album art from Spotify does not show on the screen, why can't I
have wireless CarPlay. This model sucks, I have to touch the button on
the handle to unlock the doors. Why can't it unlock when I approach?

Some of it is nifty but we lost track of the main use of a car,
transportation. It has to be an entertainment center too.

These cars have been built on the assumption that you never have a bad
battery.

Nope, they still work fine. The most you might well have to
do is use the physical key to get inside the car if it is locked.

If the battery is really dead (open cell or something) there is no
jump starting it (pushing it or rolling down a hill). You might get
enough juice from the alternator to fire the plugs but the HP fuel
pump is probably pressurizing the rail and the ECM may still be dead.

Bull****.

Even a weak battery is troubling because the first things these
cars do when you hit the clicker is turn on all the lights.

Mine isnt that stupid. But then its not a stupid yank tank.

That is not helpful if you are hoping for that one little
bump over to get going before it is completely dead..

Trivially fixed with a jump starter or jumper leads.